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It's On: State Sets Dates for Walker, Kleefisch Recall Elections

A year after Gov. Scott Walker's budget repair bill became law, recall petitioners have successfully triggered a recall election of Gov. Scott Walker and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch.

 

Enough petition signatures have been verified to trigger a recall of Gov. Scott Walker and Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, state election officials decided Monday.

The state Government Accountability Board voted 5-0 to order the recall election. If a primary election is needed, it will be held May 8. The general election date will be June 5.

This is the first time in Wisconsin history a governor is up for a recall election.

According to the Chicago Sun-Times, there have only been two successful gubernatorial recalls in U.S. history — against California Gov. Gray Davis in 2003 and North Dakota Gov. Lynn Frazier in 1921.

Of the 931,053 signatures submitted for the Walker recall, the GAB staff found 900,938 valid signatures. And of 842,854 signatures collected for the Kleefisch recall, staff reported that 808,990 were valid signatures.

To trigger the recall, the committees needed 540,208 for both officials.

“This process is unique, we’ve never seen this level of participation across the country,” said Kevin Kennedy, director of the GAB.

Walker defended his policies on FOX 6 News Friday morning:

“Two years ago the majority of people in this state elected me to do a job and we have been doing it ever since. We balanced the budget without raising taxes, without major layoffs, and without cutting core services like Medicaid," he said.

According to a story published by Businessweek.com, the next 67 days will intensify a yearlong battle that began with Walker’s budget repair bill in February 2011, which stripped public union employees of their ability to collectively bargain, mandated that they recertify every year, pay 5.9 percent of their salaries into their pension funds and pay 12.6 percent of their health insurance premiums.

The bill was passed into law in March 2011. Thousands of public union members protested and kicked off a petition drive in November with the hopes of triggering a recall of Walker, Kleefisch, and four state senators: Scott Fitzgerald, Pam Galloway, Van H. Wanggaard and Terry Moulton, to be held June 5. Galloway resigned earlier this month.

Officials with the Democratic Party of Wisconsin marked the historical significance of the event, but downplayed the need for celebration.

Mike Tate, chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, said:

Today, for the first time in Wisconsin history, a recall election was certified against a sitting governor. This is no great cause for celebration, mainly because the reasons for the recall are so grave.   This is accountability in the style of Wisconsin. More than a million strong, we did not want to walk this path — we were brought onto it by Scott Walker and his radical excesses and reckless use of power.

Wisconsin deserves an honest discussion about her future. Today's actions ensure that this judgment will now be in the hands of the people.

Ben Sparks, a spokesman for the Republican Party of Wisconsin, told Business Week that the news of the recall comes as no surprise.

We have long anticipated that union activists would be able to rally their liberal base to force this baseless recall on Wisconsin families. Voters in our state are more than ready to combat these liberal union activists to protect the vote they cast in 2010; the votes which elected Gov. Walker and Lt. Gov. Kleefisch with an overwhelming majority.

Gov. Walker and Lt. Gov. Kleefisch's supporters have been hard at work for months making phone calls and knocking on doors from RPW Victory Centers in every corner of the state, and our army of grassroots volunteers only grows by the day. Wisconsin families have repeatedly shown they want to continue moving Wisconsin forward, away from the failed liberal policies of the previous administration.

Candidates who want to run have until 5 p.m. April 10 to circulate and file nomination petitions and declaration of candidacy papers with the GAB.

State senate candidates would need at least 400 signatures, and governor and lieutenant governor candidates need a minimum of 2,000 signatures. A primary election would be triggered if more than one candidate files papers for any political party and office.

Related Topics: GAB, Government Accountability Board, Kevin Kennedy, Rebecca Kleefisch, Scott Walker, WIrecall, Walker Recall, and Wisconsin Recalls

Keith Schmitz

10:50 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Denial of the magnitude of the above news to start in three...two...one

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Ima Hippee

6:16 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Speaking of denials, Keith Schmitz everyone!

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James R Hoffa

9:31 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Keith Schmitz -

I hope you're getting my $50 ready, as it appears I'll be collecting shortly after June 5!

Have you thought about where you'd like to meet up for the presentation of my winnings?

CowDung

10:53 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

I can't believe that Tate is still claiming that one million number for those wanting to recall Walker. I guess if he keeps repeating it, it eventually becomes known as the 'truth'...

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Bob McBride

11:05 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

That's what got us here in the first place. Half-truths and emotional appeals designed to get the low-information segment of the populace scared out of their wits and willing to sign anything to make the scariness go away.

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Drive To 24

2:34 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

OVER 920,000 SIGNATURES COLLECTED. DOES THAT SOUND BETTER?

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morninmist

5:18 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

And we have the TeaGOP and folks on this board spread vile rumors--which proved to be false!!

....Dire predictions of “rampant signature fraud” and “floods” of phony signatures have been proven false. We hope that MacIver, “True the Vote,” and other groups that alleged fraud will promptly and professionally apologize to United Wisconsin, the grassroots group that gathered the signatures. But we will not hold our breath.

http://bloggingblue.com/2012/03/31/will-dooling-maciver-institute-predictions-wrong/

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James R Hoffa

8:59 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

The only "vile rumor" was the completely fabricated and fictitious 1M+ signatures collected against Governor Walker by Tate and company and perpetuated by lemmings like you!

Michael C. Travali

10:59 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

cowdung, 9/10th's of one million is a pretty damned strong number.

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upset father

11:02 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Remember he who is loudest is right . Walker will win again and they will still cry about it . How about when he wins everyone who singed the recall mail the state 20$ . For wasting the 19 million $ they say this is going to cost us .

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Hambone

12:14 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

A drop in the bucket compared to what walker gave away to people who already have more money than they could spend in ten lifetimes. You think walker give two rats about what an "upset father" thinks if you don't have the checking account to garner his attention?

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atthec44

3:53 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Hambone – Can you please point us to the line item in Scott Walker’s budget for “cash giveaway to the wealthy”?

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Hambone

4:42 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Don't be obtuse. How about the tax breaks he gave away which contributed to about half of the supposed / fabricated deficit to begin with? Stop using the "quote" marks if you're not putting my actual words in them. I never said cash, although in the end that's what it will amount to. Why don't you try to give walker a call sometime? Unless you have a 7 figure salary, I highly doubt you will even get his secretary.

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Ima Hippee

6:20 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Hambone - You did not answer atthec44. You went all obtuse and stuff.

So, you have issues with people who make more money, maybe ten times more than they need? Call Buffett, see if he'll answer your call.

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Drive To 24

2:36 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

How about we make everyone who voted for Walker pay for the recall?

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James R Hoffa

9:21 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@Drive to 24 -

You're a typical liberal - you want everyone else to pay for your frivolous temper tantrum. Congratulations!

Dirk

11:11 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

You know it's the right vote to deny this union-led witch hunt when all of the Illinois parasites continue to flood our state with their propaganda. There's a reason Illinois is the most corrupt state in the union, Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel is in Milwaukee supporting Tom Barrett, No. 50 state on the Moody's economic indicator list, just raised statewide taxes and tolls this year, and, of course, the home of the soon to be unemployed Barack Obama. On Wisconsin!!

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Menoparent

11:16 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Can't believe Walker is still touting on Fox about his accomplishments that are barely to half true and soon to be totally false.

1) balanced budget without raising much needed revenue for education and mandatory train maintenance/upgrades (not high speed rail to Madison). Has turned the new train into a boondoggle.

2) Without major layoffs, only to spend more on teachers retiring early with no funding to pay for it, major layoffs to police, etc.

3) Without cutting Medicaid, does he think we're stupid?, he just was forced federally to remove cuts he made to Medicaid illegally.

4) to say that he has balanced the budget after all we are spending on lawsuits and recalls, future promised tax cuts to his hand-picked favorite businesses will be a long-shot come next year.

5) Given he is not recalled, he will try to balance the budget again by cutting more to cities and counties of this state forcing them to do his dirty work of cutting their livelihoods and taxpayer services. This will force towns to privatize all services and you will pay more for it even if your taxes are not raised. It will all boil down to our economy remaining stagnant and little job growth.

6) Trying to privatize even more

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Lexi Noble

11:19 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Question: If Gov. Walker wins again, will this be the end of it or will the Unions and the Democrats (actually the same thing ...) come up with another plan of wasting tax payers money?

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Drive To 24

2:38 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

WALKER WILL LOSE IN A LANDSLIDE! NOT TO WORRY HONEY.

Mike

11:22 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Can't wait when all this recall bull is over. Most citizens of Wisconsin have had enough of these recalls and their costs. When all is said and done Walker will still be the governor and the left will still be complaining.

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Dad 4 life

11:46 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

Completely agree Mike. I work in manufacturing and everyone is busy. Jobs are coming back to the state. Walker's doing a good job, about time someone did something right in this state. The left has wasted so much tax payer money with this useless recall effort. I can't believe the 1,000,000 signatures. Corrupt left.

Andrea Parker

11:51 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

That is he's decision. But get it on

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Clark

11:57 am on Friday, March 30, 2012

There will still be crying and stomping and drums and chants and defacing the capital and looking for handouts and blaming others and running to Illinois and ....phew-I'm exhausted.

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Hambone

12:09 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Hate to tell you all but a good majority of all the jobs "created" and unemployment "going down" has way more to do with the weather than with walker. There are thousands of jobs statewide, roofers, landscapers, construction, etc... that are in full swing more than two months before normal start up times. True, they are no longer on unemployment, but they owe their thanks more to the crazy weather that we've been experiencing than to our Crazy governor.

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Steve ®

12:32 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Must have been really bad weather for Doyle to loose 150,000 jobs then.

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Hambone

12:46 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

That happened during a NATION WIDE crash in the economy... duh. Not even your little koch puppet could have escaped that one. Little logic here please Steve. Oh that's right ... republican, sorry.

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James R Hoffa

1:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Hambone -

That's funny, cause state's like Texas, Utah, and North Dakota, all under conservative governmental leadership, managed to escape that "NATION WIDE crash in the economy" pretty unscathed, didn't they? So why wasn't Doyle able to do the same for our state if his policies and leadership were as effective as you're claiming them to be?

Looks to me like you're the one with the lapsing logic, doesn't it?

Try again!

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Hambone

1:55 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Ok Hoffa, well look at the differences. Texas- oil comming out of it's assets, Utah and North Dakota: geez what's really there to crash anyway. Utah has a population of 2.8 million people and 82,000 square miles. comes to around 33 people per sq. mi. And North Dakota has a whopping 683,932 people living in 69, 000 sq. miles or 9.7 people per square mile. Not a whole lot of places for an economy to go is there? When you are spread that thin, what jobs there are, are pretty much needed to keep everything going. And I said nothing about Doyles policies being effective, those are your words not mine. ND has about the same population as Milwaukee alone, and walker screwed up Milwaukee County before he left leaving Ablele 55 million in the hole. That's just a county. And you trust him to run a State? He's already mis-appropriating Federal foreclosure funds to plug holes in his budget that he "supposedly" balanced. What's next? Wake up and smell the logic!

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James R Hoffa

2:26 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Hambone -

So you're claiming that low population densities make for a robust and thriving economy? Are you really advocating for the Soylent Green solution? That's about as intelligent as Greenspan saying 'there's an over supply in the housing market and if you want to get prices up again, just burn down all the vacant housing on the market.' Logical - perhaps. Rational - hardly!

Your assessment to Walker's performance in Milwaukee County really isn't fair, is it? 1) What did the county look like before Walker took over? 2) Are you factoring in your "NATION WIDE crash in the economy" when making such assessment? 3) Walker was merely the executive and still had to deal with a very liberal county board that was responsible for making policy. 4) Abele is proving to be even less successful than Walker, as according to Politifact, he's reneged on a majority of his campaign promises.

And Walker is not "mis-appropriating Federal foreclosure funds," as part of those funds belong to me and every other federal taxpaying conservative in the state and we authorized Walker to use them as he sees fit when we voted for him in 2010, not to mention that the terms of the settlement also permit such a scenario - so you can knock it off with the Daily Kos talking points already!

What's next - I'd personally like to see him throw out the current state tax code and completely restructure and simplify it to expand the base, eliminate loopholes, and lower taxes on those already paying.

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Steve ®

2:27 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

The lack of knowledge of the economy of ND is telling. It has the lowest UE in the country, fasted growing sectors in Oil, tech and banking. Free market principals are paying off. They have a housing boom and the cost of living is low.

Funny you bring up Texas with oil and how that is good and relates to jobs. We have lots of taconite here but the democrats once again say no to jobs and economic growth.

I guess your solution is going back to the days of budget deficits and a public union that over charges for services and robs from the taxpayers.

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Hambone

2:50 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

How nice of you, Hoffa, to look the other way while walker takes the foreclosure money that as a public worker, AND A TAXPAYER, <--- how often you forget.. I should also have a say in where it goes. How nice of you to look the other way in regards to the HOLES he's using that money to plug up, in a budget that he SUPPOSEDLEY ALREADY BALANCED!! As for walkers performance in Milw. County, He cost us WAY more than he ever saved us by always trying to do things even if they were illegal, just to get his way. He continually got his pee pee slapped and there is the basis for his vindictiveness against the public worker and the unions. Steve... taconite, iron, doesn't matter... Thank the gods that at least ONE republican saw the damage walker was trying to do to environmental controls and limiting the voices of the residents where the mines would go. That ONE republican actually stood up for the people he represented. He had a counter proposal too, but that wasn't as wide-sweeping as walker wanted it and it was refused. Do none of you care what kind of wasteland he wants to make of our Northwoods? Do none of you care that he actually wants to take your voices away??? You may, someday, when he comes after you.

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Steve ®

2:51 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Hambone - As you do not support mining because it creates "wastelands" I expect you use no products that use resources mined out of this planet.

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Hambone

3:15 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Steve... I did not say I was against mining. I implied I was against environmentally irresponsible mining. Oh, and did you not read the part about walker wanting to "TAKE THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE / RESIDENTS OUT OF THE EQUATION???" Would you really, REALLY, want mining to go on in your neighborhood, where your children play, without proper environmental controls and safeties in place?? And have your voice silenced to that operation beacuse he signed a piece of paper saying your opinion doesn't matter? REALLY??

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Steve ®

6:16 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

This was to be a safe mine. If you herd otherwise I would check your source which was most likely motivated by politics.

I didn't hear where they were building a playground inside an active mine, but I can't see MSHA approving that.

The residents of the area overwhelming support and need the mine.

It's pretty funny if you read your last comment from bottom to top.

Kevin Presser

12:09 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

The liberal rag, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, did a sampling of the recall signatures for Walker. They found a 10 - 15% rate of invalid/duplicate signatures. After the GAB, which stated it is not their job to invalidate signatures, finished their count, there is only a 4% rate of invalid/duplicate signatures. It is obvious that the GAB has failed it charge in a spectacular manner. We need to do something about this in the future.

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Keith Schmitz

2:06 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

That liberal rag endorsed Walker and continues to justify his existence, along with not seeing the need for a recall.

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morninmist

11:24 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012

Psst.
We will remember the vile company Walker keeps on recall election day.

DefeatVos ‏ @DefeatVos
Remember, Scott Walker's staffers have accumulated 15 criminal counts...so far. No April Fool's joke. #wiunion #GOP #p2

lori

12:12 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Think its absurd that people of this state who do not get what they want petition a recall election. You never see conservatives cry, pout and start a recall election for someone in office we don't particularly care for.. Difference here is we understand it is an election and citizens of the state or wherever vote their elected official in office. Scott Walker is doing his job how he deems necessary and people of this great state have voted him in office.... big deal that union employees have to actually put into their pensions and pay a little portion of their insurance!!! It's about damn time, everyone has to feel this recession and what makes YOU so damn important? The magnitude of idiots in this state disturbs me!! These are probably in MY opinion the same morons who voted our dumb ass president in office and are now wondering why they did and second guessing their vote. Thank god for that!!! I for one am grateful we have a govenor in office that is doing his job to the liking of my family is outstanding, to say the least. I just wish people would think with their heads and not the greed that ensues them!!

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Randy1949

12:24 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@lori -- Oh really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLwPYrCm9D0

This recall is about so much more than the compensation cuts for public workers. So much more.

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Clark

12:32 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

'So much more'? Expand on that Randy. It's really about the left not getting the gravy train they had under Doyle. June 5th will be eye opening for those on your side.

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Hambone

12:40 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

The problem with your hateful statements lori, is that they come from ingnorance. I work for the City of Milwaukee and all of our new employees HAVE been paying into our pension since 2000. Even though it is separate from the State and does not effect you in the least. We also took a voluntary wage freeze from 2009 - 2011. We are still locked in that freeze now because of everything that has happened. The two unions that walker left alone, fire and police, account for over 70% of Milwaukees budget, my dept. accounts for 1% The police recently turned down a 5% wage increase because it wasn't enough. I have never even seen a 3% raise in 16 years. So, the unions that walker is in bed with cost people WAY more money than all the rest of DPW, yet that's ok in your mind huh? Most of us make a very modest living but with all these sweeping changes, there are many of us who are quite literaly looking at losing our homes, but that's ok for you too isn't it? Nice people, you republicans.

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Randy1949

12:41 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Gladly, Clark. Forget the gravy train, of which I never received any. It's about ramming through conservative social agenda like Voter ID, removing Planned Parenthood as a provider for the Wisconsin Well Woman program, the limitation of services that _private_ insurance paid for with our own money under the long postponed health insurance exchanges, and murmurings of a Human Life Amendment, which Scott Walker is said to favor. This had nothing to do with jobs or the economy.

The gravy train is running in the other direction now, toward people who were already doing pretty well. June 5th won't open my eyes -- that already happened a year ago.

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James R Hoffa

1:45 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Simple economics guys -

When the economy is in a recession, more people are either out of work or not taking in the kind of income that they used to and are therefor financially suffering. When people are financially suffering, tax revenue collection goes down and they don't buy real estate. When real estate purchasing is down, the assessed fair market value of real estate goes down. When the fair market value of real estate goes down, property tax collection goes down. When income and property tax collection is down, the government doesn't have as much money to spend for provided services. When the government has less money to spend you can either 1) raise taxes on people that are already financially suffering, 2) lay off a bunch of public sector workers and cut services, or 3) lower the public sectors compensation and reduce the amount of assistance provided.

Walker campaigned on solving our problems by 1) not raising taxes, 2) not initiating mass layoffs, but 3) lowering everyone in the public system's compensation and reducing the amount of assistance dolled out by the state.

Walker delivered on his promises and the lefty lib dems want to recall him.

Doyle expressly promised not to raise taxes during his last re-election campaign, but ended up breaking that promise by raising taxes by billions of dollars. If it's about broken promises, then why didn't any of you recallers collect signatures for Doyle?

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linda w

1:58 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

ask your self why they want to get rid of unions. because they do not like the protective laws on the books that protect you. union or non union. and once they get rid of the unions the laws will go away as well. they do not like paying you a good wage, they do not like paying out benefits, they do not like to pay out paid vacations, or paid holidays. they want to do away with all the protective laws the unions got for the people so that they were no longer abused, and paid for what they worked for with a decent wage. people with out a union have to stab their co-worker in the back, cut thier throat climb over them any way they can to try to make them selves look better in hopes of getting a little raise. you cannot deny this as i knowe it for a fact. i have seen this inb acvtion for 37 years where i worked. i was in the union the office people were not. so you must be one of the brown nose suck asses. have a great day. don't cry when this comes about and you are at slave labor. it's coming

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Randy1949

2:26 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@JRH -- Your post is not true on one point. When real estate values fall, property taxes do not. The locality merely raises the levy per $1000. My assessment dropped by 25% two years go, but the taxes rose slightly. As opposed to the year my assessment doubled and so did my taxes.

Forcing public employees to take a cut in compensation (and thus disposable income) will save money at the outset, but there will be a resulting loss in sales tax revenue as these people are forced to adjust their spending. Some of them may be unable to pay mortgages, resulting in foreclosures and even less property tax revenue. That will have to be made up by the rest of us, and so it goes.

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CowDung

2:35 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Is that really true though Randy? The net sum is still the same--the teachers may have less to spend, but the taxpayers each have more to spend...

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John T. Pokrandt

3:22 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Really? Conservatives don't "pout and start a recall election for someone in office we don't particularly care for." What about the recalls against Wirch and Holperin? How about the latest attempts to recall Dale Schultz?

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CowDung

3:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Weren't Wirch and Holperin two of the 14 that fled to Illinois instead of doing their job and debating the budget repair bill? Not at all the same thing. Being recalled for leaving the state instead of being in the statehouse isn't the same as being recalled for voting for (or against) legislation that others find disagreeable.

Schultz is likely a valid example of recalling someone for voting the 'wrong' way. I think that his recall is as stupid as the ones against Walker et al.

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Randy1949

5:00 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@CowDung -- I don't think the taxpayers have more to spend. State income taxes remained the same. And we counted ourselves lucky that property taxes didn't go up. At least this year.

I certainly don't have an extra $250 per month in my pocket the way someone here who says she no longer does.

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Renee

7:32 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Very articulate, well thought out statements lori.

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Drive To 24

2:40 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Lori Lori Lori-are you a daddy's Republicon girl?

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Drive To 24

2:48 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

WALKER: The Political Sociopath is going down!

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Drive To 24

2:50 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Cow Dung: My property tax went down by $20. I'd rather see excellent teachers remain employed. Teacher, janitors, paraprofessionals will all be losing up to $500 per month or more.

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CowDung

5:19 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

Randy:

While state taxes remained the same, they likely would have gone up (as would local taxes) had the union workers not made their contributions to their pension and health benefits. The money paid for those benefits has to come from either the taxpayer or the worker. The more the worker pays, the less the taxpayer pays.

Drive to 24:

How many teachers became unemployed for your $20 tax decrease? Lots of teaching jobs were saved because of Walker's budget reforms...

J. B. Schmidt

12:30 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Does the number of signatures matter? My guess the GAB took the total weight of the papers, divided it by the average weight of ink used in a signature and determined their number.

Lets just do away with democratic process in this state and simply have a continuous yearly ballot based on who gathers the most signature.

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Carrie

12:40 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

To quote Lori: . big deal that union employees have to actually put into their pensions and pay a little portion of their insurance

I just wish people would think with their heads and not the greed that ensues them!!

That "big deal" cost me 250.00/month, out of a $29000 annual salary. As for thinking with their heads and not greed, let's start with the Republicans.

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Lexi Noble

1:13 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

"nor do I hide my actions" ummm, then why not answer upset father's question about 'paying this before collective was taken away or is it do the loss of it"? Or is this some more of that "democratic transparency" in action ???

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linda w

2:05 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

you are so right. my son inlawe is a university police officer and he makes 40 thou a year he had to take 16 furlough days thats days with no pay, and he was paying into his healthcare and pension, pluss they took no pay rqaises for thier 4 year contract now walker says no raqise for 2 more years that 6 years with out a pay increase. but yet these idiots out there won't do any fact checking they believe all the lies walker puts out there and worship them.

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Clark

3:29 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

The private sector has also taken pay cuts. There is no law they says a 4% pay increase each year. Reality check!!!

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Randy1949

4:00 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Clark -- Yes, the private sector has taken pay cuts while CEO salaries and corporate profits have risen. And no one seems to see anything wrong with it. The disparity of wealth grows, and long with it grows a disparity in political power.

upset father

12:50 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Carrie were you paying that before collective was taken away or is it do to the loss of if ? I know a lot of people in the private sector that pay way more then that .

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Carrie

12:54 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

None of your business which it is. Unlike Walker, i'm not a liar, nor do I hide my actions behind a bullying front. Bottom line, it cost me money I don't have to spare, as did the furloughs. I am my only source of support.

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Carrie

12:56 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Not to mention, private sector makes more in the first place. I'm not the one who is the problem here.

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Clark

2:02 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Carrie- you say your salary is $29,000, what is your 'fringe' amount- most likely another $20,000.... So $49,000- that's pretty decent wouldn't you agree??
Private sector insurance has increased to extremely high copays, premiums and deductibles. It's about time the state employed catch up!!

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CowDung

2:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Carrie:

Workers in the private sector do not always 'make more in the first place'. Where I live, the teachers in the Catholic school make only about 70% of what the public school teachers make, and their benefits aren't nearly as good...

Johnny Blade

1:01 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Hmmm .. where is my free stuff? .. thats right i am a tax payer with a job... tax payers against the eltist government workers ...

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Randy1949

1:25 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Nothing is 'free', Johnny. Unless you consider the portion of your health insurance paid by your employer to be 'free'. In the case of public employees, they had negotiated for higher benefits (less personal contribution) in lieu of a higher rate of pay, which actually saved the taxpayers money. They took what amounts to a substantial pay cut and were demonized in the process, so that business could be taxed less.

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linda w

2:07 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

just how stupid are you these state workers pay taxes to. why can't you get it in you fat stupid head. ignorance is bliss

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James R Hoffa

2:40 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@linda w -

You are correct - state workers do in fact pay taxes just like a private sector worker does. The only difference is that a private sector union isn't bargaining against its members' own interests as a taxpayer the way public sector unions do, correct? See the difference now?

Public sector unions are inherently conflicted in that they bargain against their own member's other pocket. Also, public sector workers already have a 'seat at the table' via their duly elected public officials that are charged with overseeing the spending of the tax revenue collected budgets, as just like private sector workers, they are also able to cast their ballots in elections.

So where's the need for public sector unions exactly, other than to merely create an unnecessary layer of additional bureaucracy that drives up costs and lowers the effectiveness and efficiency of governmental provided services?

Or is ignorance bliss?

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Hambone

3:03 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Really Hoffa? Is that why, back in 2009, MY public union, instead of taking the arbitrators offer, pushed and encouraged us to take less than the arbitrator was going to award us for past wages, and ALSO take a voluntary wage freeze for two years? The City needed money and my union -BARGAINING IN GOOD FAITH, with the City, pushed its members to dig in and help the Citys financial woes. A lot of us weren't happy with it but it was enacted, in good faith, with the City. Really the union thugs you are looking to blame and flog, eh? Problem is, those of us who were already doing our part, became demonized along with the rest of the bigger unions. Thanks for that. We don't deserve that

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James R Hoffa

7:01 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Randy1949 -

"They took what amounts to a substantial pay cut and were demonized in the process, so that business could be taxed less."

Funny, my small business is still being taxed at the same rate as before. Or are you talking about the tax credits to entice employers to either move and/or hire/expand in the state. Again, how many of those credits have been handed out thus far by Walker and co.? I think you'll find that when you look at the actual numbers, instead of the DPW talking points, that the correlation isn't as close as you have been led to believe it is. You may want to come up with some new material.

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James R Hoffa

8:47 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Hambone -

Thanks for proving my point - it's our duly elected governmental leaders that should decide how our tax dollars are spent, and not public sector unions or arbitrators. If you don't like the pay, benefits, and working conditions offered by public sector employment under the tutilage of our governmental leaders, then quit and go work for someone else. The lack of unionization/CB hasn't stopped people from working for the federal government, has it?

Try again.

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Carrie

4:38 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012

Johnny Blade, it is not free stuff, you don't pay for it, and I do.

Do your homework. That was so pathetic countering it took no effort on my part.

upset father

1:02 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Just asking Carrie . I know people on badger care that pay almost 500$ a month for single coverage ! So sorry if 250 a month is a lot . And if you make 29,000$ that's more then you can earn to qualify for badger care .

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linda w

2:08 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

yea and thaqt is before taxes. thats what screws people out of help. they only look at your gross they don't give adam about how little your net is. BIG DIFFERENCE

upset father

1:11 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Funny you say private sector makes more . I notify the people at mc donalds , the gas station on the corner and so on . They will be glad to hear they are rich .

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Carrie

2:07 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I could care less, I'm tired of hearing that i'm feeding at the public trough.

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Keith Schmitz

2:19 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Wow. Just wow. Are you made up or do you exist?

upset father

1:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Wonder how people would feel about a flat tax . 15% of your income everyone . No more tax brackets or refunds . Everyone pays the same % . Sound fare to me

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Randy1949

1:32 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Sounds good to me, as long as that's the total tax burden and not just federal income tax. Between federal, state, and local property tax, I pay 30% of my gross income in taxes. You're also forgetting that people with earned income pay 7% of it to FICA, starting with the very first dollar earned. Paul Ryan can't seem to decide whether that's a tax or not, depending on how it bolsters his arguments.

What a flat tax will do is to give more money to those who are already making so much they can't possibly spend it all, and take more from people who are struggling to get by as it is, and the people who are for it are counting on your inability to do math. It's not 'fare' at all.

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Keith Schmitz

2:11 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Flat tax? All the sheep love it because they don't know the difference between percentages and absolute dollars. Why do think Steve Forbes loves it, because he has fools who think that because everyone pays 15% that's fair.

We fought 250 years ago to get rid of an aristocracy. Now the Tea Party wants it back.

You people rail and cry about elitists where none exist while saying nothing about the de facto plutocracy.

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Caleb Foust

12:24 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

It appears the only person on this board that doesn't like paying taxes is Keith Schmitz.

2003TW000441 -- Department of Revenue vs. Keith R. Schmitz

Interest on verdict $ 39.55
Penalty $ 10.00
Tax $ 2,929.83

2009TW004843 - Department of Revenue vs. KRPR, Inc.

Interest on verdict $ 195.09
Penalty $ 670.26
Tax $ 1,875.00

upset father

1:53 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Randy do you even know what a tax return is . Have you gotten one lately

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Randy1949

2:13 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@upset father -- My, my, could you possibly be more condescending? Yes, I've filed a tax return every year since 1972. I do them myself, so I know very well how they work. And that includes dealing with income from regular employment, self-employment, and capital gains, each with their different challenges.

Or are you perhaps referring to a tax 'refund'? Sometimes I get those; most often I don't. Because FYI, we file tax returns (reports to the IRS of our yearly income) even if we owe no income tax at all.

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Alfred Kell

2:24 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

No such thing as a tax refund for folks who overpay into the bloated government, its a tax overpayment. Now the slugs who get the Earned Income Credit, that is welfare, not a refund.

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Randy1949

2:38 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Alfred Kell -- So, a rebate on the 7% a worker pays on the very first dollar earned (no standard deduction, no exemptions) is welfare, while the 15% Mitt Romney pays on his millions from capital gains simply for sitting on his behind isn't? Mitt Romney earns three times in one day what your average EIC recipient makes working 40 hours a week all year. Have you ever tried to live on $15000 a year?

Carrie

2:05 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Clark
2:02 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Carrie- you say your salary is $29,000, what is your 'fringe' amount- most likely another $20,000.... So $49,000- that's pretty decent wouldn't you agree??
Private sector insurance has increased to extremely high copays, premiums and deductibles. It's about time the state employed catch up!!

Not now it's 29000, and no, my fringe benefits aren't that close. You cannot change my mind, I can decide for myself.

Add to that national Republican attacks on birth control and abortion, making it now legal to subject women to degrading examinations against their will and without their consent, the behind closed doors redistricting of Wisconsin, the rejection of the funds for the high speed rail, make it plain to me that Republicans are concerned with things that don't connect to the realities of life, just life the way wealthy people live it.

I think there are more important things to worry about then forcing women to carry children they don't want and can't provide for. Republicans, on the whole, are only concerned with forcing me to carry that child, not about what that child's life is like afterwards, or what my life would be like. No woman I know would get an abortion on a whim.

Yes, it is about more than the money. It's about the average man or woman being able to have a decent life. That is a right for all, not just the wealthy.

Bye Scott and all your ill gotten cronies : p You don't own Wisconsin.

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Alfred Kell

2:18 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

You certainly are ignorant, do you pay property taxes of any kind, or do Mommy and Daddy opt you out of that adult responsibility?

There is nothing special about the 'services' the union goons/stooges and thugs give us from government folks, I have lived in other states where taxes are mucho less and the services are mucho better...by a large margin.

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James R Hoffa

2:31 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Carrie -

If a person doesn't want to have or isn't able to provide for a child, then why would they conceive one in the first place? It is, after all, a completely voluntary act - except in the cases of rape or unduly influenced incest, isn't it?

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Randy1949

2:54 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Alfred Kell -- I certainly pay property taxes, and I have noticed that every time income tax is cut at the federal or state level, we eventually see a rise in property taxes to make up. Did Scott Walker cut your state income tax one iota? No, he just cut state aid to localities and let the chips fall. I'm not sure why you guys don't get that.

Kari

2:09 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Upset father, I know twenty-somethings who manage fast food restaurants with no more than a high school diploma making $40K or more. When you compare equivalent jobs in the private vs. public sector, then you have a valid argument. Anyone who thinks the recall is all about public employees paying more for benefits is uninformed or ignorant.

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Carrie

2:10 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Lexi Noble
1:13 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

"nor do I hide my actions" ummm, then why not answer upset father's question about 'paying this before collective was taken away or is it do the loss of it"? Or is this some more of that "democratic transparency" in action ???

Because i have the right to refuse to answer that question. It's Walker in question here, not me.

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linda w

2:27 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

all you smart asses out ther that claim the state worker makes so dam much money. well for starter snow plow drivers make 11.00 dollar an hour. the university police officers make 40 thou. this is all before taxes. they also took no pay raises in their last contract for 4 years. they took no pay raises to keep what they pay in insurance & pension lower. they also took 16 furlough days. thats days with no pay. the majority of the state workers made 45 thou or less. except for the ones who have a special degree to get them a higher wage.
SO I SAY TO ALL OF YOU THAT HATE THE UNION WORKERS. THE NEXT TIME THERE IS A FIRE AND FIREMEN SAVE THE FAMILY GO TELL THE FIREMEN TO THEIR FACE THEY DON'T DESERVE THIER PAY. NEXT TIME A POLICE OFFICER HELPS OUT A RAPE VICTEM OR A BURGLARY, GO TELL THE POLICE OFFICER TO HIS FACE THEY DON'T DESERVE THIER PAY. THE NEXT TIME YOUR CHILD GETS HELP IN SCHOOL & MAKES THE GRADE GO TELL THE TEACHER AT THE NEXT PARENT CONFERENCE THEY DON'T DESERVE THEIR PAY. THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE A SNOW STORM AND THE ROADS AND HIGHWAYS ARE CLEAR SO YOU ALL CAN GET YOUR SORRY ASSES TO WORK GO TELL THE SNOW PLOW DRIVER TO HIS FACE HE ISN'T WORTH HIS PAY. they arn't greedy workers they just go to work everyday doing the things you people expect from them. the only greedy ones out there are people like you that are so shallow minded think that state workers should work for free. AND BY THE WAY THEY TAKE TAXES OFF THEIR PAYCHECKS AND THEN GET PAID JUST LIKE YOU.

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CowDung

2:37 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Where did you get the idea that anyone expects public employees to work for free?

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Steve ®

2:48 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Why was WEAC overcharging for health care?

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#1 son

3:35 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Steve- WEAC is a teacher union, they don't charge for health care so they can't overcharge. The WEA Trust is an independent, not-for-profit insurance company that is regulated and overseen by the State of Wisconsin Office of the Commissioner of Insurance (OCI). It’s a separate entity, that’s separately governed from the teachers’ union.
By law, school boards are responsible for contracting with health care insurers. Like other carriers, the Trust gains and looses clients based on competitive bidding. Kenosha Unified School District, which recently chose the WEA Trust as their group health insurance provider expects to save approximately $3 million by choosing the WEA Trust. Germantown went to several major carriers to receive quotes, but only two companies bid: Humana and the WEA Trust, which was the district's current carrier. The School Board voted to stay with the WEA Trust.

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CowDung

3:47 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Funny how schools are now suddenly able to find alternate insurance providers and drop WEA Trust right after ACT 10 went into effect...

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Craig

3:49 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I don't need to overpay a union plow driver to hit my mailbox, I can get any idiot teenager to do it for free. $11/hr is pretty good for leaning on a broom 90% of the time, and screwing up the other 10%.

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Steve ®

6:35 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

You don't tell the entire story #01 son
WEA trust now has to finally compete in the market and has to bid against real legal companies. Why are they now dropping their prices if they weren't ripping everyone off before?

Truth is most are dumping WEA scam trust and saving millions now that they have to face ACT 10.

Germantown also dumped their long term care and will probably dump WEA union trust next year all together.

upset father

2:57 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Randy your right I ment to say refund . Was trying to say if you pay 30% in tax you probably don't get one .

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Randy1949

3:07 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@upset father -- Total tax burden: Federal income tax + state income tax + property tax = 30% of gross income.

I only get a refund if I overestimate my Estimated tax payments. We're self-employed and living off IRAs, so the yearly income can vary according to expenses. That's the hardest part, any unexpected but crucial expense -- medical, home maintenance or otherwise -- means extra taxable income from IRA distributions and extra tax.

A flat 15% federal tax on gross income looks good to people making a lot of money but it would really hurt people like me. On top of FICA and state income tax, it would hit lower income workers even harder.

upset father

3:02 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Kari fast food restaurants have one manager but how many people working for way less ?

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upset father

3:21 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

My point randy is . Why do people complain when someone with wealth get a tax break . If it gets them to open companies that gets taxes and hires . The only people that seem to be complaining are the ones who get tax refunds . How is it fair to make a million dollars and give half away for taxes . Looks like the 1% gets to pay 99% .

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Randy1949

3:42 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Two reasons, upset father. Wealthy individuals rarely spend their private wealth on job creation. Oh yeah, they hire gardeners and maids and buy some yachts, but it's the corporations that expand and create jobs. Lowering the corporate tax rate for businesses that expand here in the US might be worthwhile.

Under our current system, someone earning a million dollars a year doesn't give half away to federal income tax. That person pays zero dollars on the first $9000, same as you and me. 10%, 15% -- up to the top marginal rate, which I think is 35% now, but I'm not sure. That person is paying 35% only on the amount exceeding $388,000 roughly. Unless he's Mitt Romney and has no earned income, only capital gains, so he pays a straight 15% of his several million. per year.

atthec44

3:46 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

In this corner, in the red shorts, representing the taxpayers of Wisconsin, we have Scott “The Governor” Walker.

And in this corner, in the blue shorts, representing ‘da unions, we have Kathleen “The Puppet” Falk.

Let’s get ready to rumble.

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Dirk

4:11 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Correct, it simply boils down to responsible governing vs. irresponsible governing. One side comes up with creative solutions to solve economic problems while the other side simply takes more and more $$ from responsible taxpayers.
For you fans of irresponsible governing, which is represented in Illinois and California, you are more than welcome to relocate to one of those meccas of irresponsible governing. Your formula of governing is part of history and is proven it doesn't work.

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Randy1949

4:20 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

'Creative solutions'? In other words, be nice to rich folks so they'll come here and stay here. Meanwhile, make things miserable for poor folks and maybe they'll go away.

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morninmist

6:41 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

ha ha Dirk
There is nothing creative about targeting certain groups of workers and dividing the state which Walker has done. It is an abuse of his powers! And he will go down because of this abuse!

Isaac

6:26 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Lets go Walker all the way!

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morninmist

6:39 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Tsk Tsk. Walker has made it bad for lots of folks in WI. Now it is turn.

Cory Mason ‏ @RepCoryMason
Bad day for Walker: 1) Recall election certified 2) Fed Court strikes down parts of Act 10 3) Barrett gets in the race for Gov. #wirecall

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James R Hoffa

6:51 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@morninmist -

I'm curious seeing as how you're always claiming that it's my side (pro-Walker) that is dividing our state, if you could tell me how many GOP senators and representatives send out daily tweets trashing their partisan opponents?

I'll take your silence on this issue to indicate that you realize that in fact it's your side that is truly dividing our state!

Try again.

upset father

6:56 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Now barrett can be a two time looser

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Lexi Noble

7:28 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Just remember to write in Scott Walker in the Democratic Primary ... come June elections it will be Walker vs Walker...

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Randy1949

7:38 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Afraid he'll lose in a fair election, Lexi?

Lexi Noble

7:45 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Randy1949 , I think you're forgetting something, he already won in a fair election...
And speaking of a fair election...why not enforce the Voter ID ???

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Randy1949

8:02 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

He already won by a narrow margin in a low turnout year after not being entirely candid about his intentions. And then he lost a fair recall petition. It's happening. We'll see who changed their minds and who isn't complacent enough to sit home this time.

Since you Walker supporters have just revealed yourselves willing to play dirty political tricks by writing in Walker on a Democratic primary ballot, it would be tempting to insist on ID. I'm sure people who are willing to do that are willing to vote twice. But we all know that's just a thin excuse to keep the turnout low.

Lexi Noble

8:13 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@Randy1949..."not being entirely candid about his intentions" took a page right out of Obama's book, didn't he?
And how is it dirty political tricks to write in a candidate, it's the voters right. And can you honestly say every signature collected in this recall was valid? Seriously...

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Randy1949

8:28 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

If I have to explain to you why it's a dirty trick to write in the name of a candidate being recalled in the primary for the candidate to oppose him, then you're the perfect Walker supporter. Weasel all the way.

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Bob McBride

7:41 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Why write in Walker? Why not just vote for the most vulnerable Democratic candidate? Dems do it regularly in Republican primaries and brag about it.

Using the recall provision to attempt to remove every vulnerable Republican isn't a "dirty trick", because the provision makes it legal to do. Using other, legal methods to attempt to prevent that from happening, however, is. Nice consistent logic there, Randy.

Lexi Noble

8:40 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

I think you mean...WALKER all the way ...See you at the poles...

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Randy1949

10:01 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

No, thank you, Lexi, I don't frequent the sort of 'gentlemen's establishments where poles feature in the entertainment, so I won't see you 'at the poles'. However, expect to see me at the polls on all the upcoming election days.

morninmist

8:59 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

Great little tune-video to the jingle of ghostbusters.
The Koch-Walker phone call is in the lyrics. ha ha.

Coffee Bean ‏ @CoffeeBean26
Good One! Who ya gonna recall? Scott Walker! http://upload.democraticunderground.com/101719490 #wiunion #ReclaimWI #WIrecall #connecttheleft

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/101719490
Who Ya Gonna Recall? Scott Walker!

"Union bustin' makes him feel good!"

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James R Hoffa

9:28 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@morninmist -

Thanks for once again proving that these recalls are all about a single issue!

I knew that you served a purpose around here ;-)

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morninmist

8:53 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

I can always count on your yipping of the broken record.

...............
James R Hoffa

9:28 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

@morninmist -

Thanks for once again proving that these recalls are all about a single issue!

I knew that you served a purpose around here ;-)

morninmist

9:55 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

It IS a grand Friday!

http://www.defendwisconsin.org/2012/03/30/new-poll-dems-lead-over-walker-in-a-very-close-race/

New poll: Dems lead over Walker in a very close race

– March 30, 2012Posted in: Polls and Data

A new NBC News/Marist poll conducted on March 26-27 shows the Democrats have a very slim lead over Gov. Scott Walker in the upcoming recall election.

The poll finds that 48 percent of Wisconsin voters say they will support a Democratic candidate, while 46 percent indicate they’ll vote for Walker (margin of error of plus-minus 1.9 percentage points).

The poll also found that Wisconsin voters were split down the middle over Gov. Scott Walker’s job performance, with 48 percent approving, and 48 percent disapproving.

..The survey also finds that 45 percent of Wisconsin voters say they would Democratic candidate Tammy Baldwin in the 2012 US Senate race, while 40 percent say they will support a Republican candidate.

The poll is consistent with the findings of a recent Marquette Law School survey, which also shows a very close race. ...

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Alfred

7:41 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Democrats win polls not elections

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morninmist

2:59 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Keep dreaming Alfred.

Defend Wisconsin ‏ @DefendWisconsin
New poll: Dems lead over Walker in a very close race http://bit.ly/H3b0Wd #recallwalker #wiunion

Racine Progressive

10:05 pm on Friday, March 30, 2012

What a sweet day!
The Recall of Walker and Kleefisch is set.
Part of Walker's attack on collective bargaining was struch down.
All we needed was for Walker to get arrested as part of the ongoing John Doe investigation.
It's a race between Walker getting recalled and getting arrested. Which will happen first?

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morninmist

8:52 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

All that is left is the recall VOTES--GOTV. It is Walker's money against the people of WI.

StandUp4People ‏ @StandUpWis
MT @jbrady77: #Wisconsin! Time to turn up the volume! Ramp up the action! Get out the vote & #ReclaimWI! #wirecall #wiunion #recallwalker!

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James R Hoffa

12:52 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

You still don't get it - Hoffa and his fellow Walker Backers are the people of Wisconsin as well!

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morninmist

3:01 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Sure you and TeaGOP are! But you and your fiends are the ones who trample on Wisconsin's fine tradition of open government!!

Coffee Bean ‏ @CoffeeBean26

@DefeatVos Fed judges none too happy with WI GOP tactics, were they? http://thewheelerreport.com/releases/March12/0322/0322redistrictingmemoandorder.pdf SECRECY AGREEMENTS ARE BAD! #wiunion #WeAreWI

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James R Hoffa

9:48 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

You're lecturing me on open government while referencing some tweeter that has an obsession with Colombian products?

Yeah, you just keep on telling yourself that! BTW - What exactly happened when your 'heroic' 14 decided to hold an un publicly noticed caucus out of state for over three weeks? You want to talk open government, well, Hoffa doesn't find it very kosher to caucus in secret and away from your entire constituency in another sovereign jurisdiction while missing a vote on an issue that effected the entire state! For most, that would be tantamount to an act of treason.

Where's your outrage over that situation Mr. "fine tradition of open government?"

Don't worry, I won't be holding my breath for your response!

upset father

7:35 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Sad to say that after walker wins . Collective bargaining law is rewritten and gets passed .the so called court case against him gets thrown . We will still have to listen to all your crap !

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Thurston Howell III

7:50 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

http://wauwatosa.patch.com/articles/wisconsin-seen-as-the-linchpin-in-2012-politics-and-beyond Congratulations in advance upset Father.. If Falk is the Dem Candidate your predictions will most likely be realized :-(

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Alfred

7:57 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Will you goons leave us alone finally or will you union stooges always be upset about having a good job?

morninmist

8:40 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Here the so-called "massive" fraud that the TEAGOP has been screaming about endlessly for months--and it was committed by the TeaGOP!!

WI State AFL-CIO ‏ @wisaflcio
RT: @prwatch: GAB says only 4 signatures are fraud including "I LOVE SCOTT WALKER, THANKS" http://tiny.cc/pyszbw #wiunion #wirecall

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/03/11399/allegations-massive-fraud-wisconsin-recall-proved-false

Allegations of Massive Fraud in Wisconsin Recall Proved False

by Will Dooling — March 30, 2012 - 9:17am
Topics: Election 2012, Democracy, Politics, Propaganda

Today, the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board (GAB) will take formal action to schedule the first recall election of a sitting U.S. governor in more than a decade. Since the recall effort began in November of 2011, conservative media outlets have been alleging massive fraud, but now that the GAB has gone through extraordinary effort and expense to certify the recall and count the petitions, what is the status of the fraud allegations?....

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J. B. Schmidt

8:59 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist
Let's assume your side recaptures the governors position. What next? Do you repeal all of Act 10 and returning all money to local schools? Then what? Do you continue to raise taxes and let the local school boards raise property taxes? Will you continue to leave budget deficits and raid money from other funds? Can you please provide me with solution to the states fiscal problems that existed before Walker? Please do not deny they existed, I can find the Journal Article stating the sad shape of the government prior to anything being done by Walker.

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upset father

9:14 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

J.b. maybe they will get a loan from China like our president keeps doing . Pretty soon it will be the United States of China !

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upset father

9:28 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Do you mean like takeing social security funds to pay for obama care ? So now when the younger generation get to retirement age there won't be any funds for them ? Thanks for wasting money on a program that most don't want !

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Randy1949

10:26 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@upset father -- I think you mean 'Medicare' rather than Social Security. Part of the ACA involved cutting some Medicare expenses, including the very expensive Medicare Advantage programs. Compared to what Paul Ryan is suggesting for Medicare, President Obama is a piker. How can you support Ryan and not the President?

Now, the FICA has been temporarily reduced to provide a 'poor man's' tax break and keep the economy going. I question the wisdom of this, because it plays into the hands of the conservative element who want to do away with this program.

morninmist

10:45 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Thomas Payne
Cornelius, NC

This puppet has taken one of the finest states in the Union and totally trashed it, top to bottom. He and his minions have left no stone unturned in their radical insurgency to destroy everything that was good in this wonderful state that was once a beacon of democracy. It is not a case of "he should go." It is the urgent matter of "he MUST go."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/31/us/wisconsin-approves-recall-election-for-governor-walker.html?_r=1&src=tp

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James R Hoffa

12:59 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

If Wisconsin sucks so bad under Walker's administration for you and your fellow recallers, then why don't you all move to the south? I hear IL has a governor that you guys would absolutely love - higher taxes, mass public employee layoffs, huge deficits and debt, reduced services, ... you know, the liberal utopian paradise!

We'll be happy with Walker and you guys will be happy with Quinn - it's a win-win for everyone! Think about it.

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morninmist

8:41 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Hoffa.

You and walker et al continue to bash IL but looky hereL

BrewCity Brawler ‏ @BrewCityBrawler

IL economic health ranks #6, WI #43 on bloomberg list http://goo.gl/EGlTS #recallwalker #notworking #wiunion

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James R Hoffa

9:13 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

LOL!!! You have got to be kidding me! You've just proven that you apparently don't bother reading the crap that you perpetuate on these boards!

One of the criteria for conducting the 'ranking survey' was the amount of tax revenue collection. Of course when you raise taxes like Quinn did in IL, the revenue collection is going to initially increase (while the population and jobs slowly starts to decrease - like Detroit) … DUH! In fact, the article mentions that the only way IL ranked as high as it did was because of Quinn's tax increases. The article also looks a little deeper:

"Illinois ranked high in terms of tax revenue (4th), but low for home prices (41st), performance of local stocks (39th) and personal income (34th). It was 19th in the nation for delinquent mortgages and 28th for its employment rate."

In every other measured category, Walker's Wisconsin topped Illinois.

But, I guess that's what liberals consider successful - high taxes and unemployment with low home prices and personal income!

Please, try again, as this one was really pathetic - even for you!!!

morninmist

11:10 am on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Thanks to the article in the nytimes. In solidarity.

ChicagoDeb ‏ @yiawda

The people of Wisconsin are an inspiration. Their hard work impacts the entire Country. #RecallWalker #WIunion Read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/31/us/wisconsin-approves-recall-election-for-governor-walker.html?ref=us

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James R Hoffa

1:39 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

"ChicagoDeb" - who is that, one of Obama's corrupt Cook County political machine?

J. B. Schmidt

2:53 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@Drive to 24 (assuming that is your real name)
The government always accepts tax payments over and above the amount due. Why did you pocket that $20 and create a situation where a teacher had to pay for a portion of their health benefits? You hypocrite.

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morninmist

2:56 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

ha ha. Walker has been running ads since mid Nov and he is running behind.

Good day for all Wisconsinites.

Defend Wisconsin ‏ @DefendWisconsin
New poll: Dems lead over Walker in a very close race http://bit.ly/H3b0Wd #recallwalker #wiunion

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morninmist

3:22 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

United Wisconsin ‏ @UnitedWisconsin

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#Wisconsin to Walker: "Your time is up." http://www.unitedwisconsin.com/wisconsin-to-scott-walker-%E2%80%9Cyour-time-is-up-%E2%80%9D #wirecall #unitedwi #wiunion #recallwalker #reclaimwi #wiriseup

30 Mar 2012 9:24 am
Wisconsin to Scott Walker: “Your time is up.”
by Erik

MADISON- Following is the statement of United Wisconsin on the news that today the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board will officially certify that the recall elections against Scott Walker and Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch will proceed

“Today’s announcement from the Government Accountability Board represents another milestone in the battle to reclaim Wisconsin values. While this news comes as little surprise, it does serve as vindication to those that worked tirelessly throughout the petition campaign—a campaign that collected over 1.7 million signatures, and stands as the largest recall in United States history....more.

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morninmist

7:47 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

oh, and that infamous TeaGOP media got it WRONG also.

http://bloggingblue.com/2012/03/31/will-dooling-maciver-institute-predictions-wrong/

...MacIver Institute Predictions Wrong

Upon receiving the signatures, the GAB worked hard to scan them and post them online so that all parties could examine them. In a February 6 interview on the Mike Gousha Show, the most respected TV news show in Wisconsin, MacIver Institute President Brett Healy declared that he had personally reviewed the thousands of pages of petitions, and by his estimate almost one third of the signatures would be invalidated, and only 650,000 signatures would be found valid.

Yet in the end, the final count released by the GAB on March 29 found an error rate of only about 3.2 percent — about a tenth of Healy’s initial prediction of 33 1/3 percent. This is no surprise to the 30,000 volunteers of the grassroots group United Wisconsin, who collected and submitted signatures and established a multi-stage review process to make sure that every signature was clear and complete, and made their best effort to eliminate duplicates.....

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James R Hoffa

8:50 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

The GAB found a 28% invalid rate with the Wanggaard petition and now they expect us to believe that there was only a 3.2% invalid rate with the Walker petition? Does that even seem logical to you? I guess the liberals in Racine are some bad hombres compared to the rest of the state by such an estimation, wouldn't you say?

Also, didn't the Milwaukee J/S find at least a 15% invalid rate with the Walker petition?

But you're free to drink the GAB's kool-aide with that 3.2% number if you so desire - it just makes you look like the fool!

News Flash - just because the government says something doesn't make factually accurate or correct.

Lean to think for yourself for a change!

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obtw

8:56 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

"This is no surprise to the 30,000 volunteers of the grassroots group United Wisconsin, who collected and submitted signatures and established a multi-stage review process to make sure that every signature was clear and complete, and made their best effort to eliminate duplicates....."

Same group that claimed "Over One Million" signatures.? If so, the GAB certified them as liars

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morninmist

9:00 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@Hoffa
I would trust GAB before your pathetic TeaParty Verify the Vote group!!

Walker could not find enough volunteers to even challenge the petitions!!--and was too cheap to hire people. If you do not like the results--give your pal Walker a call and stop the crying. He is to blame for not putting in his own challenge--as the rules require him to do.

http://www.defendwisconsin.org/2012/03/02/abandoned-by-governor-walker-tea-party-groups-soldier-on-in-fight-against-recall/

.....This could not have been welcome news to Texas (where else)- based Tea Party organization True the Vote, which just the day before had published the findings of its “review” of the recall documents, which concluded, in brazen contradiction of any scientific standard, that the recall effort had failed to meet the minimum number of signatures required to trigger an election.

Nor was it encouraging news for our friends from Texas when, as reported here, McFarland-based public relations firm PF-Data immediately published a “review of the review,” finding the True the Vote study to be rife with error and deliberate misinformation.

A further report from The Center for Media and Democracy, issued today, is even more dismissive of the Texas group, its author even suggesting that Governor Walker might have decided to forgo challenging the recall in order to distance himself from True the Vote, ...

morninmist

9:09 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Walker spent all those MILLIONS on ads for MONTHS now he is barely squeaking by!! Tsk Tsk!

Saturday, March 31, 2012
8:06 PM
Walker about even with Barrett, Falk in new poll

A new poll obtained by WisPolitics.com has Gov. Scott Walker about even with possible Dem challengers Tom Barrett and Kathleen Falk.

The poll was conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research Inc. March 24-26, before Barrett announced he's running.

It found 48 percent of those surveyed backed Barrett, compared to 47 for Walker.

When paired with Falk, it was Walker 48, the former Dane County exec 47.................

http://elections.wispolitics.com/2012/03/walker-about-even-with-barrett-falk-in.html

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James R Hoffa

9:41 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

@morninmist -

The truth of the matter will be revealed on election day when Walker spanks his opposition by double digits!

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morninmist

10:03 pm on Saturday, March 31, 2012

Walker just gave me a good laugh--which he seldom does.

You say Walker by double digits? Whow, Your delusion is worst than I had thought.

@Progress2day GovWalker Ha ha. Walker said the recall elec.is about his 'courage' It is April's fool tomorrow! http://elections.wispolitics.com/2012/03/walker-says-hes-learned-lesson-from.html $wiunion

morninmist

9:19 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012

Walker and the WI TeaGOP will pay the price at the polls for their War on Women!

Solidarity Wisconsin ‏ @WIProud
Short-lived pay equity law appears headed for repeal http://bit.ly/HHjFM1 #WIunion #RecallWalker #WarOnWomen #p2

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morninmist

9:28 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012

I have heard her speak and have had the opportunity to speak with her also. She is very much up on the issues and is personable.
Enjoy.

Washington Co Dems ‏ @WashCoDemsWi

video of Gov candidate Senator Vinehout speaking at our office opening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ALzMcH1rQ&feature=relmfu #wiunion #wirecall

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morninmist

9:39 am on Sunday, April 1, 2012

Indeed--it IS an April Fool's JOKE.
Scotter has been running his deceptive ads since mid-Nov and his polls are DROPPING.

john hershberger ‏ @hershinmad

Good Morning #WiUnion #WiRecall #RecallWalker slick media blitz convinced me! I'm standing with walker! #AprilFool

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morninmist

6:54 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

This is something Doug would do--it is in his nature.

Monday, April 2, 2012

http://publius9.blogspot.com/2012/04/report-from-doug-la-follette-nomination.html

Report From a Doug La Follette Nomination Circulator

I spent part of this weekend talking to people who vote for Democrats and some who vote for Republicans about Doug La Follette's campaign for Wisconsin Governor as I collected signatures for his nomination, and I've gotten a very good reception from everyone. After my introduction, I always went to "Doug La Follette doesn't take money from any special interests." I told them that fact is one of the primary reasons I'm supporting him for governor, and then I asked if they would be willing to support his name on the ballot. No one has turned me down yet. No more questions.

Everyone likes to hear that a candidate doesn't receive support from special interests, especially these days, and everyone I talked to was excited to help such a candidate get on the ballot.

This is positive news for Doug La Follette's campaign. All of the Democratic candidates are in a statistical dead-heat with Walker. So we're going to need a strong candidate with a stark contrast from Scott Walker, and Doug La Follette's confidence to stand for the people of Wisconsin without special interest support is the starkest contrast among the Democrats.......

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morninmist

7:41 pm on Monday, April 2, 2012

JOYS. even the right leaning Rass has Walker LOSING!

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/shock-poll-majority-would-recall-wis-gov-walker/435816#.T3nMG4T7DHQ.twitter

Shock Poll: Majority would recall Wis. Gov. Walker
8 hours 29 min ago

A new Rasmussen poll finds that Republican Wisconsin Scott Walker is in trouble of being recalled June 5, with a majority, 52 percent, saying they will vote him out less than two years after he took office and immediately went to work to cut the power of public service unions.

The poll revealed a remarkable shift from February when 54 percent of Wisconsin voters said they would vote against the recall. In today’s poll, just 47 percent said they would vote against recalling the governor. Details will be released at 1 p.m.

Worse for Walker: 53 percent disapprove of his job as governor with a whopping 46 percent saying they “strongly disapprove” of Walker. Majorities of both men and women now support his recall. Rasmussen found that his support among Republicans and conservatives remains strong.

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morninmist

6:21 pm on Wednesday, April 4, 2012

I wonder if God whispers in his ear like he (GOD) does for Bush!

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2012/04/04/exclusive-scott-walker-on-recall-gods-got-a-plan.aspx
Exclusive: Scott Walker on Recall: "God's Got A Plan"

In an exclusive interview with The Brody File, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker says prayer has gotten him and his family through this recall effort and that God has it all under control. “All this is just a temporary thing and God's got a plan for us," Walker tells us. Could that lead to even bigger things beyond being Governor of Wisconsin? “Who knows where it might be, beyond just serving as Governor of this state.”

The Brody File spoke with Governor Walker at his Executive Residence in Madison Wisconsin this past Sunday afternoon for about an hour. We are releasing a few of the video clips from the interview. More will be released on The Brody File Show later this week and a full story will air on The 700 Club in the next couple weeks.

Mandatory Courtesy: CBN News/The Brody File (VIDEO Coming Soon)

Watch his comments below with the full transcription.
Walker 2:

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morninmist

6:25 pm on Wednesday, April 4, 2012

Scotter's SUV hears lots of what Walker says.

Scott Walker's SUV ‏ @ScottWalkersSUV


Scott Walker thinks Kathy Nickolaus is "doing a heckava job" #wiunion #wirecall

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morninmist

7:15 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

http://www.defendwisconsin.org/2012/04/05/live-first-gubernatorial-town-hall/

Live: First Gubernatorial Town Hall

– April 5, 2012Posted in: Announcements

This First Gubernatorial Town Hall start tonight at 6:30 p.m. in Milwaukee at Serb Hall. All of the Democratic candidates have confirmed they will be attending. Gov. Scott Walker was invited, but said he is unavailable.

Click here to watch live.

There will be at least three more town halls after this one and before the May 8 primary.

Green Bay
6:30 pm, Monday, April 9
Heritage Hill, 2640 S. Webster Ave.

Wausau
6:30 pm, Friday, April 13
Rose Garden, 131 W. Thomas St.

Racine
6:30 pm, Monday, April 23
Bray Center, 924 Center Street

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morninmist

7:17 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

Falk just finished talking. Drats I missed it.

Next up--Kathleen Vinehout
http://www.cbs58.com/live-streaming

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morninmist

7:37 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

Barrett up now. Talking of the need to build up our infrastructure in WI--sewers, bridges, ect. He will put WI workers back to work. Very commendable to run on this issue.

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James R Hoffa

7:51 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

@morninmist -

Barrett has proven that he can't even fix the MMSD so that it doesn't discharge millions of gallons of untreated sewage into Lake Michigan every year, and yet you trust him to effectively implement public works projects state wide? You're kidding, right?

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morninmist

10:31 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2012

@Hoffa
I would not trust Walker to do ANYTHING right for Wisconsinites. Barrett has a heart (vs Walker who has no soul-he sold it to the highest bidder) and trust he will do what he can to get folks back to work if elected.

Justme

8:50 am on Friday, April 13, 2012

Morningmist: It was 8.2 BILLIONS of gallons of raw sewage that was dumped into Lake Michigan. Barrett promised he was going to stop it when he ran for mayor in his first term. He criticized his opponent Marvin Pratt, for not accomplising this MMSD mess in 6 weeks! And that was 8 years ago! and Barrett STILL hasn't done anything about it. Barrett is (milk)toast.

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