And thank you George Soros for financing all those Barack Hussein Obama commercials that keep piling on the BS about Mitt Romney.

Funny, I have still to hear from Barack Hussein Obama even one reason to vote FOR Barack Hussein Obama!

The usual blather from Bren - Alec - check, Rand - Check Tea fringe - check

You need to get fresh. Speaking of fresh, what is Obama doing about Libya? Hiding? Obfuscating? Dead Americans and blood on his hands.

BTW - the stench bit is not to be believed, it was fiction.

@Bren -

Please provide proof that ALEC provided Governor Walker with these "talking points."

Or are you just making up and perpetrating LIES, as you commonly do?

Bren, the other day in an article about Walker saying essentially the exact same thing to Charlie Sykes, you stated he WASN'T sticking to the ALEC message.

It's BS either way, however if you'd at least be consistent in the manner in which you spread it around you'd look a lot less idiotic.

Anti, which Soros Super-PAC is that? Please share, thanks.

Ima, Roger Simons is a senior correspondent, not a satirist. His article wasn't presented as satire; it also contains much other factual information. Certainly "The Stench" is being accused of being fiction, but in fact I'd give Ryan-Rand more credit if it is true. Despite being a millionaire, Ryan-Rand has done a much better job of presenting himself as ordinary folks than Mr. Entitlement Mitt Romney. Unless something extraordinary happens between now and November, Obama's getting re-elected. Ryan-Rand might as well work on damage control now.

Mr. Hoffa, you don't need my highest-percentile EQ to detect the difference between freestyle Scott Walker and string-operated Scott Walker. What you call "lies" are statements that don't align with your own ideas.

Mike Itz, have we met? ; )

Bob, are you familiar with the term "cognitive dissonance?" It's not me, it's the GOP. Hard to keep up with all the conflicting stances and muck ("Win at All Costs") thrown out by the Gross Old Party these days. Current polling numbers place Obama in good shape for re-election.

I find your "idiotic" comment refreshing! Never before Patch have I encountered an environment where my level of intelligence has been challenged. How interesting it is! Another reason why Patch is a guilty pleasure.

@Bren -

You stated that ALEC provided Walker with talking points. So, you either have proof of this or it's just speculation, conjecture, assumption, etc. - or in other words, a LIE.

And how can you ask The Anti-Alinsky to back up his assertions while failing/refusing to back up your own with independent primary sourced corroboration?

Either provide a link or admit that you have no proof to back up your frivolous and libelous assertion.

Much like William Shatner in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn (1982), Hoffa is laughing at the superior intellect!

http://www.hark.com/clips/vdxrljxmmy-im-laughing-at-the-superior-intellect

Bren, if you call two virtually identical statements by Walker ALEC provided talking points in one instance and NOT ALEC provided talking points in another, it's not the GOP with the conflicting stances - it's you.

As for your intelligence, I'm not sure it lives up to the hype it gets here on a regular basis from a less-than-unbiased source.

How about this one Bren?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/soros-gives-1-million-to-democratic-super-pac/

And what is your obsession with Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand? A good writer provokes thought and inspiration, whether or not they agree with it. Look at Ryan's quote: "“There is no better place to find the moral case for capitalism and individualism..." Yet Ayn Rand was an atheist.

Rather than trying to chase phantom scandals, why don't you try and stick with facts?

Anti, the article doesn't state that these are Soros' Super PACs. Soros hasn't funded the fringe of the Democratic Party in the way that the Koch brothers et al created the astroturf Tea Party out of the nether fringe of the GOP.

I appreciate your efforts of interpretation, rather than just allowing them to be handed to you by campaign tacticians. This is the place where good decision making begins.

Paul Ryan as late as 2005 has credited Ayn Rand for formulating his ideas/ideals since youth. It is reasonable to assume that "rational self interest" guides his attempts to dodge and weave from the atheist ideas that have driven his career to-date. Will you let him get away with it?

@Bren -

Still waiting for that link showing that Scott Walker received these talking points from ALEC, or an admission that you're making crap up again.

Sorry Brandt, it's already being bought by George Soros, Arianna Huffington, Warren Buffett and others.

@Brandt -

Making fun of Mitt's underwear, eh?

What can we expect from your religious bigotry next - making fun of a Catholic priest's white banded collar and crucifix? Or maybe making fun of the robes that Buddhists wear? Heaven forbid that you start ripping on Muslims! Maybe a few slams against Hindus would be better.

You're a hateful piece of TRASH!!!

Greg, You pooped on yourself again. Good thing you`ve got them pampers on, in your case we`ll call them Grandpers.

@Greg... Did you see that bumper-sticker slogan on a car in the McDonald's Drive-thru?

morninmist -

I think most people with an IQ above 10 saw this one coming - that, of course, would exclude Hoffa - ;) it's a piece of Walker legislation... who wants to touch that?

@Lyin' John Wilson & @Lyin' morninmist -

That's just Supreme Court code for 'the Court of Appeals will validate the law as constitutional, so we don't need to get involved.'

Just because the S. Court refused to take the case straight from the Circuit Court doesn't mean that you blue fisters have won the war on this issue - Hoffa hopes that you guys realize this.

There's still an appeal to the Court of Appeals, where the Circuit Court's decision will be reversed and the law will be upheld as constitutional, and implemented by the Walker administration shortly thereafter!

Voter ID will become a reality - better get used to it!!! Or will you blue fisters throw another temper tantrum?

JRH –

Yes, that JRH predicted President Obama’s ACA, would be declared Unconstitutional too…

Judge John Robert's, the Chief Supreme Court Justice ruled it constitutional.

Then JRH spent the better part of 4-days arguing on the Patch that HE – the ever-bloviating JRH – had found a flaw in Judge Robert’s reasoning – and then, and then, he was going to file astounding court appeals, put forth amazing legal theories and precedents and he would, once-and-for-all- prove that President Obama’s ACA was Unconstitutional.

Moreover, after being forced [by the great John Wilson] to actually read the decision – he still bloviated for a day or two – and then, after finally finishing the final stage of grief, he accepted the FACT that he had no basis for any appeal…

Like Bush: All hat, no cowboy…

“There's still an appeal to the Court of Appeals, where the Circuit Court's decision will be reversed and the law will be upheld as constitutional, and implemented by the Walker administration shortly thereafter! Voter ID will become a reality - better get used to it!!! Or will you blue fisters throw another temper tantrum?"

Therefore, it would be most wise to take anything you read from this fine fellow with extreme caution…

I really think JRH has enough passion for the entire GOP... it is intellect that is lacking here...

@morninmist -

There's that infamous reading comprehension problem, on full display once again!

FYI - the article is not about Tommy Thompson or the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Silly liberals, always trying to shift the subject!

Jimbo,

Wait, what?

“The hard part about being a bartender is figuring out who is drunk and who is just stupid”

Hey Hoffa the Hack. Get a grip. Obama lowered taxes on every one in the middle class. He is going to raise taxes on the upper class on December 31st.

F**k yeah raise cap gains taxes. The major beneficiaries are wealthy people who are doing no work and making big bucks vs people who work hard.

You are so subservient.

@Schmitzy -

Who's the hack that can't seem to pay his debts? Does Hoffa have to put his guys from Detroit on this collection?

Do the smart thing and pay Hoffa his fifty ($50)!

@Schmitzy -

That's a LIE - Obama didn't lower anyone's taxes! He maintained the status quo from his predecessor, Bush.

And as far as payroll taxes go, those aren't really taxes according to you guys on the left - they're an investment. All Obama did was reduce the amount that is forcibly collected for that investment, which means that citizens can expect lower SS and Medicare benefits in the future.

So honestly, what taxes did Obama lower for the middle class? Answer - NONE!!!

But Obama did impose a lot of new taxes on the middle class via Obamacare - one of the largest middle class tax hikes in the nation's history. And he hasn't done anything to stop the Bush tax cuts from expiring on Dec 31 for everyone, so get ready for that!

Also, small businesses, of which Hoffa is an owner, has seen their unemployment insurance taxes and other taxes significantly increase during Obama's term.

Finally, the middle class doesn't make investments??? Yeah, that increase in the cap gains taxes that Obama wants definitely won't impact people's 401k's, IRA's, or other investment vehicles, will it? Under Obama. you'll have to work harder and longer to get to retirement, and even when you make it, you'll have less to enjoy in retirement because Obama's government needs more of your money so it can support low lifes like Schmitzy!

Obama = Taxmageddon!

Schmitzy = low information, non-thinking, recipient of government assistance, low life reneger!

Actually, Hoffa - Obama did cut taxes on working families - 95% of them: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/jan/28/barack-obama/tax-cut-95-percent-stimulus-made-it-so/

The stimulus paid for tax cuts and Republicans call it a failure. Republicans calling tax cuts a failure.

Let's dwell on that a moment. The key to every Republican plan - tax cuts - are called a failure when Obama does it. Funny

No - not funny.

And by the by, Hoffa. I will criticize every reliegion - Muslim, Christian, Mormon, etc. It's all worthless and the source of 90% of our evils.

@FreeThought Troy -

If you actually read the Politifact analysis that you linked to, you'd notice that:

"Obama's claim is based on a tax cut intended to offset payroll taxes."

FICA and FUTA are the federal payroll taxes. The money collected from these 'taxes' go into SS, Medicare, unemployment, and workers compensation benefits. Paying in less just means that people will receive less benefits when they qualify for these programs.

If you bothered to read all of Hoffa's comment, he previously addressed this. As the intention of those programs is to eventually directly pay people back what they directly paid into those programs, Hoffa really doesn't consider that to be a tax cut, but rather a decrease in the amount that we're forced to invest into those government programs, which means that we can expect less benefits from those programs later.

And FICA and FUTA taxes actually went up under Obama for businesses, including middle class small business owners. Notice how Politifact admits that "the key word in his statement is "working.""

The problem is that neither Politifact or Obama consider small business owners to be "working" people, because after all, those small business people "didn't build that - somebody else made that happen."

Because of this, Hoffa questions the accuracy of the 95% claim, which Politifact never fully analyzed before reaching their conclusion. Proof that you can't trust the fact checkers!

Care to try again?

FriedThoughtTroy: $400 is a hell of a tax cut! Don't forget we are still spending more than ever as a Nation, so where is that $400 coming from? It is added to our debt, ain't that special? Or maybe that $400 is made up by eliminating credits in the tax code. Either way, that $33/month ain't doing squat for the economy. If I recall correctly the EIC was reduced, so it is a wash.

JRH -

Only in your phenomenally delusional mind...

@morninmist -

This article is not about Colas' ruling or Act 10 - do you not know how to read???

Honestly, what's your problem? If you don't have anything to contribute to the on-topic discussion, then please spare us of your random and highly divisive tweet re-postings. It's also sad that you are constantly taking your marching orders from others - you never offer an original analysis or thought of your own. Instead, misty is constantly allowing others to do the thinking for him/her. It's really quite pathetic when you think about it!

Proof once again that Democrats = low information, non-thinking voters.

No surprise about economic Republicans being manipulated into taking stances against their own self-interest.

@Bren -

And what exactly would be those stances that are against their own self interests?

The "values" voters will vote for a guy who protested FOR the Viet Nam war draft and then headed off to France.

Therefore, they, and he, have no values.

@Schmitzy -

So, when did Obama serve? At his age, he would have been prime for Desert Storm, right? I don't recall seeing any military service on his resume though.

And Mitt's deferment was granted. Essentially, you're blaming LBJ, one of your great Democratic heroes, for that! Had it been denied, Hoffa is certain that Mitt gladly would have served his country.

BTW - A man who refuses to pay his owed debts doesn't have any credibility when it comes to discussing 'values' on a public forum - that's just utterly ridiculous! Have you no shame?

Pay Hoffa his fifty ($50)!!!

Hoffa, I think Schmitzy is still waiting for his end of the month check from the feds.

@The Anti-Alinsky -

Schmitzy is a chronic mail box checker!

Romney only gives it out to millionaires.

And Schmitzy only reneges on his debts and obligations!

love that video----and the other one with the lady and her kid saying obama was going to pay her rent and car payments...pretty much sums up the vote buying....

yomammy -

You just gotta love the racists on this site... they contaminate the gene pool almost as much as the GOP...

???

Read the Journal yesterday 2 articles and 1 more, latest after Walker said he didn't need to tell WEPC, his aide does and apologizes. The HUD findings are on Wispolitics.com

50%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

slickwilly -

The polls are only sampling DEMOCRATS! That is why Willard is down! (9) of the most popular polls only sample DEMOCRATS, and the same goes for the Fox Poll!

Do NOT believe the polls... believe that warm, mushy mess in your pants... that's scientific!

"Rethuglicans"

Isn't it wonderful that the progressive left is so open and accepting!

"obama in a landslide"... hmmm.....

What Christian can thrust aside "Love Thy Neighbor" for atheist Ayn Rand's "Rational Self Interest?" Because that's frankly what a vote for Paul Ryan represents. It's no coincidence that Catholic bishops decried Ryan's so-called budget plan (and plans for Medicare) as "inhumane."

A person's religious beliefs should not impact the work that they do. Christian teachings, and those of every major belief system, align with the legal and social organizations of our culture. I have great concern about the anti-government, anti-social views that are being expressed by individuals fueled by atheist Ayn Rand, and Paul Ryan stands chief among them. When these anti-socialists talk about "limited government" they mean they are trying to limit the voices of ordinary people in our democratic republic, i.e., We the People, For the People. That's to clear the road for further entrenchment by special interests/power brokers. If successful, it does not bode well for Americans who are just trying to live, put their kids in college, and not die an early death because they can't afford medical treatment and Wall Street decimated their retirement savings.

We have some choices to make as the American people, whether we are the America of "In God We Trust" and "We the People" and Love Thy Neighbor or if we are willing to give up on our beliefs and be subsumed by forces of negativity and greed.

Michael McClusky -

Romney need to be convicted!

@morninmist -

Please stop shifting the subject with nonsense from your lefty-liberal blogs.

Yes, the leftist Milwaukee Journal Sentinel had an article about "the apology." Here's a link to blog analysis, which includes links to the actual article (and I believe 3 related bylines) http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/171799211.html

If you want to ask Scott Walker about it today, too bad. "Your" (and I use the term "Your" as a synonym for the acronym "ALEC") governor is keynoting the state GOP convention in New Hampshire. Shame on those of us who tried to elect a governor who would actually serve Wisconsin.

hey huff
Perhaps you and your imaginary sidekick need to stop with with the pompous lecturing to other posters! I will not hold my breath asking you do so as it would be suicidal.

So Mist, I see your still here. Ever going to answer my earlier question? Might help us all understand where you are coming from:

"10:04 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Mist, do you also agree with Wilson's statements on religion?"

"I can feel an attack coming on: gotta run..."

********

Too late. Next time try to keep the flailing arms and legs away from the keyboard.

@Nick Poulos -

Please elaborate - how exactly has Hoffa lied about Obamacare?

Here are the facts about Obamacare:

1) Insurance premiums have gone up since it was signed into law, and not down as Obama had promised.

2) The individual mandate will primarily impact middle class families, hitting them with one of the largest tax increases in our nation's history.

3) Panels of appointed bureaucrats will decide what kind of care is approved and under what circumstances approved care is warranted, instead of leaving such decisions to the doctor-patient relationship.

4) It forces doctors to error on the side of frugality as opposed to the side of caution.

5) It imposes new taxes on businesses of all sizes and individuals above certain income levels, thus consumers can expect the prices of goods and services to increase as a result.

6) It increases usage of the health care system without increasing the supply of doctors or health care facilities, thus all can expect longer waits and reduced services.

7) Like most government programs, it will probably cost more than initially projected (the CBO has been continually revising their estimates upwards) and end up contributing to increased deficits and debt.

And that's just for starters!

Yeah, what a wonderful program all right - NOT!!!

In 2008, candidate Obama promised no mandate:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/06/how-obama-broke-his-promise-on-individual-mandates/259183/

LIAR!!!

@morninmist -

Where's the math on Obama's non-plan?

And let's not forget that the CBO keeps on revising the costs of Obamacare upward every time we turn around!

Ryan's just saving the good stuff for the debate!

JRH –

No wonder you are so into RETRO...

Lyin’ “Ryan's just saving the good stuff for the debate!" Of course, he is…

When asked by Chris Wallace on Faux News Sunday – not exactly a Liberal bastion of ideology or TRUTH – to explain how cutting taxes 20% and adding 5T to the deficit is going to work to balance the budget. Lyin’ Ryan, the thin-skinned, arrogant, preppy boy, became very angry, frustrated, and full of hubris, stating, “It would take me too long to go through all of the math….”

Of course, it would…

I doubt if the moderator on October 11th is going to let Lyin’ Ryan get by with that; just don’t look for a long debate here, Lyin’ Ryan will probably start another record breaking marathon, getting off of the stage and running back to Janesville to his Oscar-Meyer Weiner mobile.

This Biden/Lyin’ Ryan debate is destined to be the shortest debate in history.

@Lyin' John Wilson and @Lyin' morninmist -

The math adds up. If Romney's plan creates the kind of job growth that he's projecting, 12M new private sector jobs, we'll have12M more people paying into the system. With 12M more people working, they won't be draining from the system any longer either - so we'll actually be able to cut spending. With the combination of additional revenues and decreased spending, it will be possible to lower the marginal rates, without affecting middle/working class exemptions and deductions, and experience revenue neutrality - not that we necessarily need revenue neutrality, as Romney/Ryan plan to cut a lot more spending from the federal budget.

It works. Why Ryan couldn't explain it this way when being interviewed by Chris Wallace on Sunday is beyond Hoffa - maybe Ryan was just having an off day.

Granted, Hoffa prefers his proposed federal tax plan over Romney's, it's definitely better than the alternative of higher taxes across the board that is being offered by Obama and the Dems!

SUCK IT!!!