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Obama: Diary of a Teflon Presidency

President Barrack Hussein Obama's presidency has become infamous in its ability of avoid blame.  Like Teflon, nothing seems to stick to this phenom of a President.  Likewise, the Republican Party, especially the members of the house, have become the Super Glue to Obama's Teflon.  The economy? Republicans.  Jobless rate?  Republicans.  Sequester?  Republicans.  Climate change?  Republicans.  Middle East trouble?  Republicans.  Gun violence?  Republicans.  And the list goes on and on and on and on...

Somebody help me with this, but I thought Obama won the last two elections.  I thought that he was the President.  Top dog.  The leader of our country.  The big kauhuna.  Am I missing something here?  No matter what ills the country has; no matter what is going wrong; for the first time in my life, nothing is blamed on the President.  As a matter of fact, most President's have usually accepted responsibility for what ails us. 

Harry S. Truman so eloquently defined responsibility when he stated; "The buck stops here."  In other words, there is no one else to blame and he took personal responsibility of how the country was governed.  He even placed a sign on his desk in the Oval Office to remind him of that very notion on a daily basis.  This motto has been used by every President since.  That is, until Obama. 

The true testament to a good leader is that they take responsibility for the good and bad, of not just themselves, but everyone beneath them. Under this Administration, the President has managed to blame almost everyone but himself.  For the first term of his presidency, you would have thought that George W. Bush was still occupying the White House.  After all, everything was his fault.

Four years later, it has now become the Republican House members.  Or the rich.  Or the corporations.  Or the TEA Party.  Truth of the matter is that it is everybody else's fault.  No, the buck doesn't stop anymore at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., but at E Capitol St NE & 1st St NE 20004, or better known as the U.S. Capitol Building. 

Former President Ronald Reagan once proclaimed, "The era of big government is dead."  Obama's proclamation reads more like, "The era of personal responsibility is dead."  True leaders don't make excuses.  True leaders get results.  True leaders don't blame others. 

If you wondering what is wrong with this country, on can simply point to the fact that this country is lacking leadership.  When your one single, and what you claim to be your biggest accomplishment, the Affordable Care Act, doesn't even kick in until you pack your bags after second term, that is not leadership.  When you you bring two budgets to the floor and not one person on either side of the aisle can vote for it, that is not leadership.  When you pass the buck to the former President for nearly four years into your own, that is not leadership.  And when you fail to even recognize the pending problems you face to try to pass your own agenda, that is not leadership. 

Leaders find a way to get things done.  They work within the system.  But most of all, the own it.  Obama could still be a leader.  After all, he does have four more years.  But it is not in his DNA.  I spoke of it prior to his election win in 2008.  The guy had voted present for 90% of the votes he took as an Illinois legislator and U.S. Senator.  Sadly, my predictions have panned out.  He has voted present on the economy, on foreign affairs, an unemployment and now the sequester facing this country.  I see him as the kids running around in the Family Circus cartoons shouting "Not Me." 

The legacy will be that  Obama was the "Teflon President."  And that is sad.  So much was expected, yet so little was delivered.

GearHead

8:22 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Your story timing is excellent as the prez and Moochell take separate jets yet again to exotic vacations on the taxpayers, of course!

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GearHead

8:24 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

You forgot he singularly slayed Bin Laden, as he would have us believe.

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patchreader 123

7:43 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I have never voted for this president. Nonetheless, when he won his 1st presidential election, I was encouraged by his stance on transperancy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GSBT_-JoQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPMf6kW_1Nw

He has completely let me down.

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patchreader 123

7:44 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Why has our main stream media not called him out on this? Teflon indeed.

Richard Head

8:21 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Well, in truth, Harry Truman also lied.

The Federal Reserve Dollar was only worth $1 in 1913. After that , inflation took over. Technically, gas is still around 10 cents a gallon - measured by an honest SILVER dime, but those are gone, or too valuable to use as a face value dime (honest money) vs. pure fiat Federal Reserve Toilet Paper - er dollars, and scrap metal coins.

Today 1 oz of gold will get you $1609.78 Federal Reserve Dollars.

Harry Truman was President from 1945 - 1953. In 1945 One Federal Reserve Dollar was worth 55 cents. When Harry left office, one federal Reserve Dollar was worth 37 cents.

Today, a Federal reserve Dollar is worth just 4 cents. All fiat currencies eventually go to ZERO - so holding gold, silver or PB and Steel might be a better hedge.

Have some fun with the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis CPI Calculator.

http://www.minneapolisfed.org/

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Johnny Blade

8:04 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Richard ..but a dollar has a number on it like 100 dollars it is always worth 100 dollars .. silver is just wieghed in troy ounces, it doesn't have a number on it to give the sheep faith .. what will they do?

C. Sanders

8:31 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013

History will judge this President's leadership for what it is: absent, distant and purely political.

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Bottom Line

9:04 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Ignoring the deficiency, and character, of legislators that are forwarding the liberal agenda is not new. We have, however, seen that in the absence of scrutiny liberals have become shameless. Telling a lie has become an essential part of the liberal doctrine, and repeating the lie is part of their marketing strategy.

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Brian Dey

9:20 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013

right out of the Saul Alinsky handbook. just like "never let a good crisis go to waste."

FreeThought Troy

9:38 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013

This entire article makes me sad. The reason a vast majority of the blame for this country’s ills are given to Republicans is very simple. Republicans are the reason for a vast majority of this country’s ills. For a party who campaigns on “jobs, jobs, jobs…” one they get into power, their laser focus is on social issues (abortion and gay rights). They oppose the President on every scale. The filibuster is so misused the fact the President has been able to accomplish anything is amazing. More jobs have been created in 2010 alone than in the last 8 years of the Bush Administration. This President is extremely effective and history will show this.

You begin this piece with a picture of Harry Truman. He called out his Congress as the “Do Nothing Congress.” This President’s Congress is even less effective. The Speaker of the House can’t even get the votes he needs from his own party!

You can quote Saul Alinsky all you like. It doesn’t change simple fact. Republicans deserve the criticism. The reason the President avoids the blame – is because the President is not to blame.

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Brian Dey

9:51 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013

FTT- So let me get this straight. His two budgets couldn't even get one, not one, democrat to vote for it. That is the fault of McConnell and Boehner how? The fact that our debt has more than tripled is the fault of the Republicans how? You contradict yourself. If the Republicans are about doing nothing, then why isn't this President even trying to work with the Republicans. He thinks that name calling and personal bashing is going to get them to come to a compromise? Or does he think that by lying to Congress that it will get them to the table?

The President said he was going to focus on jobs. Even got together a panel. In 18 months, he never met with, let alone spoke with his jobs panel. They disbanded out of frustration.

The President said he was going to focus on the economy, yet his focus is on gun control (helps the economy how?), and more spending. And yet you guys buy into it because of your hatred for the other side. And if that is going to be the case, that your own Sen. Leader, who refuses to even bring up house bills for an up or down vote, the Senate will use every tool to block it. Clinto hated Gingrich and the Republicans, yet he found a way to work with them. That is leadership.

I say to the Republicans, let Obama have his way. Have it all. And we can see how history will look back on it. Unfortuantely, we can't afford to do that. He's already bankrupting our future.

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The Anti-Alinsky

12:03 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

And, don't forget the issue that catapulted B.O. into the White House, the economic crisis created when the housing bubble burst. A bubble that was created by Democrats when they not only ignored warnings about Freddie and Fannie, but they went our of their way to belittle those shouting the warnings as well as working to keep the staus quo at Freddie and Fannie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg

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FreeThought Troy

1:29 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Brian – Never let some good ol’ fashion vitriol change up the facts. The President has gone out of his way to compromise. Healthcare, Debt Ceiling, yes – even budget. Everything he has tried has come up against a wall of uncompromising Republican opposition. Let me ask you, has the Republican lead house passed a budget? Nope. Even the famed Ryan Budget failed – failed by Republican defections.

This White House has cut spending more than any Republican White House the past two decades. If you want to bag on the President for its debt, that is fine, but I guess that is what happens when you actually budget for wars (Iraq) that are not paid for – unlike the Republican President who started the war and never budgeted for it.

And the housing bubble – yes: Fannie and Freddie did have some responsibility for that. But also do not forget the years of deregulation and the era of fast gambling style Wall St. that squandered billions with no penalty to those responsible. Wall St. bankers and investors still rake in millions in bonuses and not one has been prosecuted for its purposeful deception of the American People. Wall St. is to blame more so than any gov. agency.

I do join you in one wish. Let Obama have is way. The country will actually be able recover from the mess given to us by Republicans.

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Brian Dey

2:58 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

FTT- What alternative universe have you been living in?

The Obama Administration, Harry Reid and nancy Pelosi never causcused with Republicans, used a little used procedure and voted on Christmas Eve to bypass a filibuster. It won on party lines in the Senate and barely squeaked by in the House with 36 Democrats voting against it. That is your idea of compromise.

Debt ceiling- I guess holding all tax paying Americans hostage to tax the rich is your idea of compromise.

I have to laugh at your even mentioning the budget because he couldn't even get 1 Senator or Congressman on either side of the aisle to vote for it. That is laughable...

Oh, and your right, the Republican House, in control since 2010 has passed two budgets that Harry Reid not only didn't bring to the floor for a vote, but he never even offered a Senate bill to rebutt.

The only spending cuts Obama has is the end of the Iraq war and raising taxes on the rich which is not a spending cut.

I really thought you were smarter than to walk out the tired old MSNBC-BS lines. And please, if you have not had a budget in four years, you can't budget for the wars.

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FreeThought Troy

3:35 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Brian – your response is the comedy here. Maybe in FoxNews world does this make any sense, but really? OK, it’s Sunday & I’ll bite.

Your first point. Is that the debt ceiling? Congress i.e. Boehner struck out big time. Even though the Constitution places the payment of debt on Congress, our Speaker of the House passed it off to the Senate and White House because he couldn’t even control his own Caucus. The fact Republicans re elected him Speaker really notes how messed up they are. So the money we already spend finally got authorized to pay. So much for fiscal responsibility when the “fiscally responsible” party says, “we don’t like you so we just won’t pay our CC debt…

Oh, yes. Holding all Americans hostage to protect 1% of the uber wealthy? That is scumbag. By the by. The compromise that was reached was already offered by the President at least TWO WEEKS before the deal. Who is not willing to negotiate? The Republicans. How may voted against it?

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FreeThought Troy

3:35 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/227857-senate-rejects-obama-budget-in-99-0-vote/
“…But the GOP push was blunted a bit when the House Republican budget from Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) faced Republican defections in a 41-58 vote.
The "no" votes included five Republicans: Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Olympia Snowe (Maine), Scott Brown (Mass.), Rand Paul (Ky.) and Dean Heller (Nev.)…”

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/12/07/fox-news-papers-over-obamas-proposed-spending-c/191748
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/12/11/president-obamas-record-and-proposals-cutting-spending

One more time. Turn off FoxNews, Brian. They are lying to you.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22

You love to come out with anti MSNBC rhetoric as some burn or something. You have arguments, Brian. It is too bad they are all based on complete partisan fiction.

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The Anti-Alinsky

6:41 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Free, how many Democrats voted for the Ryan budget? NONE!!! If you are going to make a statement, the time to do it is when it's a losing vote. Some of the reasons Ryan's budget did not pass:
"Heller, who twice before voted in favor of the Republican budget crafted by Rep. Paul Ryan, described his vote as a protest against a showmanship process that was never meant to result in a new federal budget.

“Today’s votes were not a serious effort to pass a budget,” Heller said in a written statement. “After this charade, our nation is no closer to economic prosperity or addressing our massive national debt.”
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But Heller’s budget votes also were a strategic campaign move... against Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev."

“Today was about political posturing. The American people are tired of it, and so am I,” he said.
(http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/may/16/heller-reverses-course-republican-budget-breaks-pa/)

Snowe lamented she was not able to offer amendments to the Ryan budget and Brown called for a bipartisan approach.

“We need to end our out-of-control spending, our trillion dollar annual deficits, and the attitude that taxing more and spending more is the answer," Brown said. "To do that, we need to work together, Democrats and Republicans.”
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/may/16/heller-reverses-course-republican-budget-breaks-pa/

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The Anti-Alinsky

6:41 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

BTW-usually both chambers pass their own budget bills, then compromising on the differences before passing a final bill. Harry Reid’s Senate hasn’t even come up with an alternative, not even an attempt!!!

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FreeThought Troy

7:11 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

But when the other chamber is so out of control its own Speaker of the House can’t negotiate with them, why even bother?

Face it, the Republican Party is an out of touch - out of control - mess.

Craig

1:55 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

$16.5 Trillion of debt...
if you counted a number for each second of the day, it would take more than 500,000 years to get to $16.5 trillion!
This Country needs a leader. One who will say (and mean) the buck stops here.
Promises of transparency by this President are as clear as mud.
He has no leadership capabilities, clearly in over his head. His own party doesn't respect him, he is a liar and a fraud.

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FreeThought Troy

2:58 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Reduced spending. Increased employment. Success despite unprecedented opposition. A party, and country, that respects and supports him.

This is the reality for the President of the United States.

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FreeThought Troy

3:37 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Sure, Brian.
I guess reality is an alternative universe where you are from. Where is that again? FoxNewsistan?

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Brian Dey

5:13 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

A picture is worth a thousand words. The map was taken from Politifact. 2/3rds of the governorships, nearly two to one of the statehouses, and about 80% of the landscape red. He won by less than 4% and he has a narrow margin in the Senate and not even close in the House. Again I say, what alternative universe are you living in?

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FreeThought Troy

7:09 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

As well as a map taken from RedState. Meaning Democrats won the majority of the votes in the states but more Republicans won elections thanks to gerrymandered districts.

I guess your alternative universe is where cheaters are supposed to win.

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The Anti-Alinsky

7:14 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Free Thought Troy wrote: “Reduced spending”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals
Table 1.1
YEAR....SPENDING…..CHANGE
………...(in millions)
2001....1,862,846……….4.13%
2002....2,010,894……….7.95%
2003....2,159,899……….7.41%
2004....2,292,841……….6.16%
2005....2,471,957……….7.81%
2006....2,655,050……….7.41%
2007....2,728,686……….2.77%
2008....2,982,544……….9.30%
2009....3,517,677……….17.94% (year of TARP and ARRA)
2010....3,456,213……….-1.75%
2011....3,603,061……….4.25%
2012....3,795,547……….5.34%
(estimate)

Spending 27.26% more is not reducing spending

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The Anti-Alinsky

7:14 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Free Thought Troy wrote: “Increased employment”

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001
for the month of January each year
(in millions)
YEAR….NUMBER……..CHANGE
…………EMPLOYED
2004....108.974…………..0.20%
2005....110.767…………..1.65%
2006....113.283…………..2.27%
2007....115.066…………..1.57%
2008....115.668…………..0.52%
2009....111.048………….-3. 99%
2010....106.876………….-3.76%
2011....108.208…………..1.25%
2012....110.871…………..2.46%
2013....112.961…………..1.89%

For 6.1 Trillion, I would expect alot more than a 1.72 % increase in four years

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FreeThought Troy

7:37 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

From this very table proves the spending change from when GW Bush was president far outpace that of B. Obama including TARP. GW Bush never had a negative change as Obama has. The closest he came was increased less than the prior six years – most to all of them were increases in spending.

And employment? Those figure would go down significantly if the “Less Than Do Nothing” Congress would just pass the President’s Jobs Bill. But that would mean a Republican Party willing to allow this President some success for the good of the country. Right now, they have no problem with us crumbling as long as they can keep their gerrymandered elections and special interest money… trusting the “faithful” to blame the media for covering their own inadequacies.

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ann

7:49 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Someone want to tell this Troy the Tool that Obongo had Democratic Senate and House for his first two years and he still couldnt get along with them?

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Brian Dey

8:32 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

FTT- Sorry Troy, but the map is taken from Politifact. I assumed that since most of the Obama supporters used that site as a reference, I would do so in-kind.

The fact of the matter, and you prove it so well, is the double standard your side has. Everything is everybody else's fault but the President, and when bush was in office, everything was the President's fault and no else. I've seen you post on Patch many times how everything wrong in Wisconsin is Walker's fault. Yet you apply a different standard to the leader of the free world.

And that is the jest of this topic. You can't claim increased employment as the unemployment rate was virtually the same from the day he took office to the day he got re-elected. Recovery? We are one quarter away from recession according to the federal reserve chair. Despite unprecedented opposition? The guy had 2 years of total control and all he could do was muster up a horrible healthcare bill, that he had to pull some stunts to pass and then it doesn't even kick in until he's out of office. A party and country that supports him? Really? 50% is only half in case you need to be reminded.

The reality is he couldn't lead us out of a paper bag. Rhetoric is not leadership. But you would rather here a good speech than see anything get accomplished.

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CowDung

8:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Troy:

The 'gerrymandering' really doesn't seem to be as out of line as you think it is. From the Milwaukee Journal's article linked below, it seems that out of the 8 districts, 3 are strong democrat (Districts 2,3,4), 1 (maybe 2) are strong republican (districts 5,6), and 3 or 4 are tossups that narrowly went republican last November. All in all, I don't think that the Republicans have as many 'safe' seats as the democrats do...

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/189585801.html

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The Anti-Alinsky

5:11 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

FTT wrote: " Those figure would go down significantly if the “Less Than Do Nothing” Congress would just pass the President’s Jobs Bill."
From what I understand, most of the obstruction is in the Harry Reid run Senate. Maybe it's the Democrats, including some that voted against cloture.

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The Anti-Alinsky

5:12 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

And don't think it escaped my notice that you went from "Increased employment" to "It's the Republicans fault" in one comment. You are getting as bad as Ed Schultz.

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The Anti-Alinsky

5:16 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

FTT wrote: "From this very table proves the spending change from when GW Bush was president far outpace that of B. Obama including TARP. "
Obama started out at a high level. And that one year of decreased spending is still 15.9% higher than Bush's last year.

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The Anti-Alinsky

5:19 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

FTT wrote: "As well as a map taken from RedState. Meaning Democrats won the majority of the votes in the states but more Republicans won elections thanks to gerrymandered districts. "

FTT, we've been over this. Most of the state is a light red, the two big exceptions are Madison and Milwaukee where they are not just blue, they are neon bright blue. If you compare the district from the last redistricting in 2001 to the current one, you would have to say they are similar.

AND...the district stood up to the court challenge with one change made between two Milwaukee based Senate seats.

J. B. Schmidt

7:43 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

Obama's lack of leading is his greatest political strength. In the arena of politics, face time and speeches are the making of a good candidate. Obama is a good speaker and has a pretty face. So, since his original run for politics, he has pretended to lead through his speeches. He and his teleprompter stand before the American people, proclaim something is being fixed, smile and walk away. He neither actually fixes the issue nor leads the congress to a passable solution. However, all the American people remember is what he said. A couple months later he returns with his teleprompter, reminds the people of what he said, tells them nothing was done with what he said and blames the opposition for not listening (as if he were emperor). There is no leadership within that process. Occasionally, after a game a B-ball or round of golf, he might sit down and write a piece of legislation (it looks more like a letter to Santa) then acts surprised when it won't pass. OR He drafts an EO with all his wants and then offers to talk compromise. He then grabs his teleprompter and tells the American people he put forth every effort to compromise.

In our youtube society, people only remember what was said and forget what was actually done. As long as he keeps saying he is leading, the low information voter will accept his faux leadership.

Will history see a Teflon President or a stupid society?

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FreeThought Troy

7:46 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

JB – that is a spot on FoxNews response with no base in reality. Did you copy and paste it from a commentary on their website or are you on the talking points email distribution list?

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J. B. Schmidt

8:09 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013

@ Troy
Which part do you object to? Has he not created an executive order that will be put in place if he does not get the compromise he wants? If you told your wife you wanted to discuss the financials about a possible car purchase after you signed the papers to purchase, are you really looking for her input?

Do you object to his budgets being something that the Republicans could not approve? Or do you fail to understand that they might represent conservatives in their districts?

Are you objecting and saying that he has spent long hours trying to get a budget signed in the last 3 years, one of which he had complete control of congress? How do you not get your budget passed when your party controls both House and Senate? He can't even compromise with his own people!

Troy, I hate fox news. I don't watch it and don't use their internet site. They are cheerleaders. Just like MSNBC (most likely your brand of choice).

dsaff

6:32 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Should be "Diary of a Clown", Brian Dey`o

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Brian Dey

6:28 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

You are so right. Obama is a clown.

ann

8:55 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Teflon president? Hell, name one black person in position of power who isn't teflon?

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CowDung

9:07 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Michael McGee comes to mind...

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Lyle Ruble

9:35 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

@ann....Your racist attitudes are coming through loud and clear.

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ann

9:40 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Cow, I said in a position of power. His last gig was a DJ at some AM station with 28 listeners.

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CowDung

9:47 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Think about it Ann. The fact that he isn't Teflon is the biggest reason that he is no longer in a position of power...

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ann

9:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

Thought about it cow, McGee was never in a position of power. I am talking about guys like Jesse Jackson JR, Al Sharpton, Obama, Charlie Rangel, etc.

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CowDung

10:16 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

McGee may not have been in power at the national level, but locally was indeed in a position of power. Certainly more powerful than Al Sharpton.

Jesse Jackson Jr. resigned from congress and has agreed to plead guilty to federal conspiracy charges. Charles Rengel was found guilty on 11 ethics charges. They are hardly Teflon...

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Bob McBride

11:02 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

I think it breaks down more along party lines than color line.

Coming to mind, recently, is Herman Cain, who certainly wasn't cut any slack because of his skin color. Clarence Thomas faced a relentless gauntlet of questioning. Condy Rice and, to a lesser degree, Colin Powell were not spared barbs when they were part of the Bush administration. I do think that if you're black and a Republican, you are treated as a sell-out and as someone working against the best interests of "your people". From that standpoint, I do think there's a racial element to it.

As for Jesse Jackson Jr, his situation has been "clouded in mystery" for well over a year. I think, were he not the son of a noted and respected national religious/political figure, the press would have been all over his case and gotten to the bottom of his "problems" a lot sooner. Michael McGee, Sr was, literally, begging to be made an issue of throughout his active career - whatever you may wish to call it. He thrived on being a colorful character bucking authority and he pretty much got what he wanted. Two different cases, both involving black "political personalities" (for lack of a better term), treated in a non-similar fashion for reasons having very little, actually, to do with their race.

ann

9:39 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

ah yes, the predictable emotive response from Lyle, the Northshore Nancy.

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Lyle Ruble

10:40 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

@ann....Why do you find a racial identification important if you're not a racist? Ronald Reagan was the original "Teflon President". As far as my response being emotive; I am rationally responding to your emotive statement.

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J. B. Schmidt

10:44 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

@Lyle
You are only saying that about Reagan because he is white.

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Lyle Ruble

11:44 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

@J.B. Schmidt....I am not the one who labeled Reagan the "Teflon President", that was a general term applied to him at the time. Things were going to hell at the time and none of it stuck to him. I know you worship at the "Alter of Reagan", but you were still in short pants when he was governor and president.

What I am pointing out is that Reagan won his second term just as Obama won his second term. Each have their supporters as well as detractors and just as the label of "Teflon President" didn't really apply to Reagan, neither does it apply to Obama. Brian Dey likes to come up with these diatribes to do a little bashing. He and Bottom Line are proving themselves to be no different than Jason, just a right hand version.

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J. B. Schmidt

12:11 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

@Lyle
I am going to take this moment to agree with your statement as these opportunities come so infrequently. As Bob states, its more about whether or not the man in power affiliates with your party.

I also don't think that Obama has won his reelection because of some slight of hand trick that allowed any level of criminality to slide off. Rather, as I posted above, Obama appears to be 'teflon' because he has no skin in the game. You can't get your neck chopped off if you never stick it out.

I will say that I believe Obama has set the stage for a new presidential role. Leadership as we have seen in the past, getting dirty in the trenches, may no longer be politically savvy. He has been able to erect the facade of leadership simply via a constant campaign tour. It would be foolish for a president to get dirty running the country if the country only wants a man who will tell them everything is fine.

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Brian Dey

12:15 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Lyle- There is a big difference between the re-election of Reagan and the re-election of Obama. Let's start with Reagan carried 49 of the 50 states, won by nearly 20% and had 525 electoral votes. I might add that it was the biggest presidential landslide in history. Reagan received nearly 20 million more votes than Mondale.

But let's get to why he won. 1981-1982 brought a recession almost, if not worse than the Bush/Obama recession. But Reagan worked with Congress, which was split with about the same Republican majority as Democrats as Obama's is today, and the Democrats controlling the House with a larger majority than Republicans today. The economy recovered quickly and Reagan and then Speaker Tip O'Neil worked together.

Reagan accepted blame for the bombong of the Marines that killed over 250 Marines in Lebanon and also accepted responsibility for Iran-Contra. Obama deied any part of Fast and Furious and out and out lied to the American people about Benghazi.

And as far as Teflon, Reagan was considered too be to stupid and too old to be President. The media criticized him like no other President before him.

So there is no comparison other than what a leader is: Reagan, and what is not a leader: Obama.

Johnny Blade

8:11 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Hey but President "Drone kill Americans with no trial", won the freakin Nobel peace prize ..We live in the Orwellian Matrix .. I pity the ignorant who just can't see thier own slavery ... the best slave is one who thinks he is free ... we are all debt slaves to the banksters ... The Private banking cartel and the petro-dollar which our military must protect to keep America afloat is destroying us

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Johnny Blade

8:13 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Oh Mr President Constitutional lawyer who swore an oath to the Constitution wants to executive order the bill of rights away .. Seems like treason .. Oh it is Treason

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Steve ®

8:28 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Liberal media + low informed liberal media zombies = Obama as president, twice.

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abrew

9:26 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

I love it when a liberal has no argument or facts, they pull out the Fox News card. Classic!

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Brian Dey

10:07 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013

But don't you dare pull out the MSNBC card cuz that's real news,..

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