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Residents Oppose Walker Recall Efforts at Greenfield Public Library

Several Greenfield residents called or emailed City Hall late last week to voice their displeasure about a petitioner inside the library's lobby.

Many Greenfield residents oppose the recall efforts against Gov. Scott Walker.

Others are now voicing their opposition to where those efforts are taking place.

Beginning late last week, several Greenfield residents sent emails, called or even stopped in voicing their displeasure that Recall Walker petitioners are allowed inside city-owned buildings such as the and City Hall to collect signatures.

On Thursday, at least one petitioner stood inside the lobby of the library collecting signatures. As of Monday, Greenfield Patch was unaware of anyone collecting signatures inside City Hall, but according to Greenfield Mayor Michael Neitzke, one would have every right to do so.

“There’s nothing that prevents a citizen from doing that,” Neitzke said. “You can’t ban it because of constitutional rights. You can’t stop it. … Someone can stand there and collect signatures. There’s nothing that prevents that on public property. They city can’t say you can’t come to the library.”

Still, allowed or not, several residents are not happy. Through an open records request, Greenfield Patch obtained several emails sent to and from Neitzke over the last several days.

Tom Wayer, 5281 Woodridge Ln. S wrote, “As a citizen of Greenfield, I am outraged and livid that trash is allowed in City of Greenfield buildings to collect signatures for the recall of Governor Walker. Letting excreta in public buildings is outrageous! Since you pander to the unions and the (Democratic) party, it is time to work to defeat you in the next election!”

Linda Johnson, 5391 S. Cambridge Ln., wrote it was inappropriate to allow petitioners inside of city-owned buildings.

“It appears to be an endorsement of the Walker Recall,” Johnson wrote. “These volunteers should be allowed to collect signatures but outside - not in the comfort of the City Hall which all citizens on both sides of this issue pay for with our tax dollars. I would appreciate if you would reconsider allowing them to set up camp in our City Hall.”

John Ronayne, 5331 S. Cambridge Ln., echoed Johnson.

“It is a politically biased activity and has no place in a city public building,” he wrote. “Please have (the table) removed immediately.”

Library Director Sheila O’Brien told Neitzke on Monday there was no table or booth at the library, just one woman with a clipboard. In an email obtained by Greenfield Patch, O’Brien indicated to Neitzke that she had been in contact with Ronayne and emailed him the library’s administration statement, which does not ban this type of political activity.

Det. Sergeant Michael Brunner said the received one call last week regarding petitioners.

“We made sure we were not violating anyone’s constitutional rights,” Brunner said. “We let the library and others know it’s legal to do that, as long as they are not physically stopping people trying to get them to sign.”

Tom Fischer November 22, 2011 at 02:55 AM
Well jimmy......have you thought of inviting in those cold, hungry homeless people? That's what a good Christian would do.
Morninmist Same November 22, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Tom I see you are into TeaGOP Party vile name-calling. I would not want you in a library with your foul mouth. Shame on you. ................ Tom Wayer, 5281 Woodridge Ln. S wrote, “As a citizen of Greenfield, I am outraged and livid that trash is allowed in City of Greenfield buildings to collect signatures for the recall of Governor Walker. Letting excreta in public buildings is outrageous! Since you pander to the unions and the (Democratic), party it is time to work to defeat you in the next election!”
Morninmist Same November 22, 2011 at 10:12 AM
Dearest Mr. Hoffa. Your conflating of the homeless camping out all day in the library with a signature collector is a stupid distraction. Stay on topic and you just might be more credible (emphasis on "might").
Morninmist Same November 22, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Thanks robert heule Well said.
Antonija Mitt November 22, 2011 at 02:06 PM
What has happened to civility? While I don't agree with the recall as I think Me. Walker is doing a good job, and I am not crazy about petitioners asking for signtures in a public building, if it is legal for them to do so--let them have at it. Then voice your displeasure with your vote when the election comes up. All this vitriol and name-calling accomplshes nothing. And I did not know there was a "Rebuplican" part of Greenfield. Aren't we all just neighbors? This kind of pigeon-holing--assuming things about someone because of their address, or the fact that they are conservaitve --is the worst kind of bigotry. ("I see you are into TeaGOP Party vile name-calling")
robert heule November 22, 2011 at 04:04 PM
Ward by ward statistical records of each election shows where the votes are. They show that the 18th ward which includes Tuckaway generally votes Republican although President Obama carried it in'08. These stats. are used in campaigns by both parties to see if it is worthwhile mailing or canvassing the area.
James R Hoffa November 22, 2011 at 04:33 PM
@robert - You are aware that the first amendment is limited to time, place, and manner restrictions, aren't you? Actually, this activity would appear to violate provision 10.09(4) of the City of Greenfield Municipal Code. If the mayor is saying that he's not going to enforce the law regarding this activity, that's his choice. But how can you support a Mayor who thinks that he is above the law while claiming that you want to oust Walker for doing the same? Is that part of the infamous liberal HYPOCRISY that I keep hearing about? I think it is! Also, if your interpretation about use of the library is correct, then I guess you wouldn't mind having neo-Nazi skin heads camping out in the lobby every day with some new peition every other day either, right? You wanted me to make your day – well, you’ve just been Hoffa’d!
Joe Greenfield November 22, 2011 at 05:06 PM
How are they interfering with the use of property? Anyone can freely enter, without obstruction and get to where they want to be.
James R Hoffa November 22, 2011 at 06:06 PM
@Joe - No more interference than homeless people would cause camping out inside the library I guess, right? So why is it that the homeless aren't welcome to camp out all day but recall petitioners are? If you’re not there to use the library for official library function, then it’s loitering and it’s against city ordinance. Pretty simple, right?
James R Hoffa November 22, 2011 at 06:11 PM
@Morninmist - So, if you're OK with opening up these buildings to allowing recall petitioners to camp out in them all day, then you're not opposed to opening them up for the homeless either right? I'm just saying that you have to be consistent here. Both represent people who aren't in those buildings to use them for their designated purposes, correct? Or are you one of those infamous liberal hypocrites that I keep hearing so much about?
Frances Ziegler November 22, 2011 at 06:38 PM
I agree. If you have a viewpoint, then state it, but it is hateful to call someone who disagrees with you names. If I am not mistaken, didn't Gov. Scott Walker win his office of County Supervisor in a "Special Election". Come on people, why be so hateful. It works on both sides of the spectrum. This is the type of conversations that tend to make me feel I do not want to vote on the side of those hateful people. Your words are harming your own political view.
Frances Ziegler November 22, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Karen, you have a point. ALL political party backers are equally taxpayers. Again, I agree 100%. By the way, didn't Gov. Scott Walker win an election for County Executive in a "Special Election". Hate is not the way to win a point of view.
Frances Ziegler November 22, 2011 at 06:43 PM
Well put.
Joe Greenfield November 22, 2011 at 06:53 PM
What is pretty simple? There are no set "official library functions"; the petitioners are not obstructing entrance which several homeless have; there is no fear of health or safety from the petitioners; the petitioners haven't been "welcomed" but are also not breaking any laws to merit there removal. Your comparison of the petitioners and the homeless is a stretch and does not actually defend your argument.
Karen November 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM
This is off point from the topic which bores me anyway, but can you tell me why you listed the addresses of the people who sent emails to Mayor Neitzke? I hope that the same does not happen to anyone leaving comments to this article, heaven forbid.
robert heule November 22, 2011 at 11:41 PM
@Karen the addresses were evidently contained in the emails obtained by the Patch under the Wisconsin Open Records law .It appears that the complainers used their addresses in their emails. In the absence of a threat to the health and safety of the senders and/or the recipients of an email to a governmental agency, they are public record.
robert heule November 22, 2011 at 11:48 PM
@ Hoffa, the Neo-Nazi skinheads or Nazis with hair, as obnoxious as the may be, have the same protections under the 1st Amendment as anyone else. Just ask one of them, I don't know any.
Karen November 22, 2011 at 11:57 PM
Thank you@ Robert for explaining about printing the names with addresses. I am a little fearful of letting my address get publicized on things like these comment sections. I now still feel safely anonymous.
Keith Brown November 23, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Would someone kindly tell Mr. Hoffa, the U.S Supreme Court years ago ruled loitering ordinances were unconstitutional. Most town and cities have them on the books but they are unenforceable.
Morninmist Same November 24, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Meanwhile, more dirty tricks by the TeaGOP Party of WI. http://www.wqow.com/story/16105928/fraud-tampering-complaints Volunteers claim someone stole petition Posted: Nov 22, 2011 6:24 PM CST By Trent Artus Eau Claire (WQOW) - Complaints are starting to surface in a recall effort. It's been a week since the recall effort targeting Governor Walker was launched and complaints about tampering popping up around the state. In Eau Claire, petition volunteers say someone stole a clipboard at a location on Birch Street. They say the person was handed a clipboard in their vehicle to sign. When organizers weren't looking, they claim the person drove off. "I was holding my sign when I saw a couple drive off in an SUV and the lady in the passenger seat was triumphantly holding up one of our clipboards with a bunch of signatures on it," says Al Moose, recall volunteer. "I knew it was ours because it was a yellow piece of paper which are the Kleefisch petitions." Volunteers estimate the petition had three or four signatures. The volunteers were unable to get a license plate number. ...........
Frances Ziegler November 24, 2011 at 02:41 PM
Recalls are recalls - we here in Wisconsin have seen BOTH Republican recalls and Democrat recalls. Name calling and gloating are counterproductive.
Peter Lynn Westre November 30, 2011 at 04:07 PM
It is a public space. Use and access is protected by the First Amendment to petition government for a redress of grievances. Homeless people also have a right to access public spaces. Sometimes that is the only way they can get warm.
Peter Lynn Westre November 30, 2011 at 04:11 PM
Thanks!
morninmist December 12, 2011 at 03:27 PM
Cog_Dis Chris Liebenthal OK, Mr Walker, we got our tax bill today. It went UP 4.5%. You lied ( which is no surprise). Now you're going down. #wirecall And Walker LIES: http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/jul/18/scott-walker/gov-scott-walker-says-average-property-tax-payer-w/ "Under our (2011-’13) budget, the average (Wisconsin) property taxpayer will save $700." Scott Walker on Thursday, July 7th, 2011 in a news release and column The Truth-O-Meter Says: FALSE!! Gov. Scott Walker says average property tax payer will save $700 under 2011-’13 state budget False
Ben Hogan December 12, 2011 at 05:41 PM
morninmist@ Where do you live? Your property tax bill increase could be due to many factors outside Walker's control. First if you live in Milwaukee, the school board did not use Governor Walker's tools. Second has your assesment gone up? Maybe you did some upgrades that you are not sharing with us. Point is that the Governor's statement was "the average" taxpayer. Average being the key word here. Some people might see a slight increase while others see a bigger drop. you aren't being fair. What would your tax bill look like without Act 10 is the real question. Your side seems to want to pay more in taxes anyways. I suggest you send in a little extra for the kids.
morninmist December 12, 2011 at 08:10 PM
ha ha. Best watch it before you get yourself all twisted up trying to rationalize Walker and his lies. Here is another Walker lie: AnonyMissBadger AnonyMissBadger @ @mcsystemsgb Legislative Fiscal Bureau says yes, #GovWalker raised taxes on average homeowners in #WI: tinyurl.com/3h5feor #RecallWalker 11 Dec
Greenfield Resident Too! December 12, 2011 at 11:36 PM
I will say that the recall commercials that have been airing are delusive. Commercial talks about how overcrowding in the schools have ocurred due to Walker. This is not true, larger class sizes started over five years ago when budget cuts were being done due to state reduction in school funds. This was even brought up at the last Greenfield's annual school budget meeting (before Walker) when a lady discussed her concerns and statisics of overcrowded classrooms. Yes, this has been a problem and yes this was Doyle's budget cutting; circular reasoning in the advertisments.
Robert Shirah February 08, 2012 at 08:34 AM
The mother of my child has taken my son & refuses to let me me see him. If she has the right to be with him then so do I pursuant to the 14th amendment, if she does not have that right then why is my son with her? I have all the documents proving I am his father. This is a DIRECT VIOLATION of the 14th amendment. ALL PERSONS born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the EQUAL PROTECTION of the laws. I have reported this crime to the Greenfield Police Department and they have refused to get a warrent .
lolo peeg March 17, 2013 at 04:34 PM
I agree with most of this, but bthe last sentence has nothing to do with anytrhing. This is just an attempt to impugn the Republican Party, using guilt by association. Thinking people will roundly reject your bigotry..
lolo peeg March 17, 2013 at 05:15 PM
Exactly my point. Just because someone lives in a certain part of Greenfield does not automatically make him/her a Republican, Democrat, or anything else.

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